preventing motorcycle theft during transport: Weakest link?
#1
preventing motorcycle theft during transport: Weakest link?
Greetings,
I just bought a very expensive dirt bike (KTM 300 xcw) and I’ll be hauling it in my 2017 F250. I was going to buy some heavy duty locks and chains to prevent or at least discourage theft. I noticed the cleats, which is what the chain will be tethered to, are bolted. Looks like this could be easily removed quickly with average Joe tools, like quicker than bolt cutters through a heavy chain.
Agreed?
Yes, I know that if a thief wants it bad enough he can steal it no matter what. I also have theft insurance on the bike. Should I have the cleat bolts welded?
Any ideas appreciated.
I just bought a very expensive dirt bike (KTM 300 xcw) and I’ll be hauling it in my 2017 F250. I was going to buy some heavy duty locks and chains to prevent or at least discourage theft. I noticed the cleats, which is what the chain will be tethered to, are bolted. Looks like this could be easily removed quickly with average Joe tools, like quicker than bolt cutters through a heavy chain.
Agreed?
Yes, I know that if a thief wants it bad enough he can steal it no matter what. I also have theft insurance on the bike. Should I have the cleat bolts welded?
Any ideas appreciated.
#3
The cleats can be removed with average joe tools, both the upper "box link" ones and the four standard ones located low at the bed corners. However, with four bolts per Box Link and two per lower tie down, using bolt cutters to cut chain is probably quicker. Keep in mind the bed is aluminum, so "welding" is not as straightforward as it would be in a steel bed. I would not recommend this.
Frankly, you've already said it yourself: if the crook wants it bad enough, he'll have it one way or another. The crook would have to get in the bed using a small impact driver to quickly get all the bolts out; this would take time and with the bike in the bed be awkward. Cutting chain might be quicker...but he/she still needs to remove it from the bed. Your tailgate is locked and they are likely not lifting a bike high enough to clear the rails, so the gate needs to be down. The lock can be defeated, but this will slow them down. Taken together, these obstacles will probably stop all but the most determined thieves. And the bike is insured. So frankly, I wouldn't be worried unless I knew I was going to be parked in high-risk areas.
Frankly, you've already said it yourself: if the crook wants it bad enough, he'll have it one way or another. The crook would have to get in the bed using a small impact driver to quickly get all the bolts out; this would take time and with the bike in the bed be awkward. Cutting chain might be quicker...but he/she still needs to remove it from the bed. Your tailgate is locked and they are likely not lifting a bike high enough to clear the rails, so the gate needs to be down. The lock can be defeated, but this will slow them down. Taken together, these obstacles will probably stop all but the most determined thieves. And the bike is insured. So frankly, I wouldn't be worried unless I knew I was going to be parked in high-risk areas.
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Are you worried about theft overnight? Just when you stop for dinner/lunch?
If I'm just going on day trips I never really worry about my bikes in the bed of my truck when I stop to eat or head into a store.
If you are making a long trip and will be stopping overnight then that is a different story. I bought an enclosed trailer for those trips, however I know plenty of people that will stay in motels and roll their bikes right into the room.
If I'm just going on day trips I never really worry about my bikes in the bed of my truck when I stop to eat or head into a store.
If you are making a long trip and will be stopping overnight then that is a different story. I bought an enclosed trailer for those trips, however I know plenty of people that will stay in motels and roll their bikes right into the room.
#9
I use a long, thick cable and run it through the frame, both wheels, ramps, bike stand, gas can and then over the tailgate and thru the receiver. Not bulletproof but I’m not gonna worry about it too much. If it’s gone the next morning then I’ll call the insurance company.
You could always replace all the plastic with Suzuki yellow. Then nobody would have any interest in stealing it!
You could always replace all the plastic with Suzuki yellow. Then nobody would have any interest in stealing it!
#11
I have been transporting bikes in the bed for a long time and have yet to have a theft thank goodness.
No device is fool proof but my philosophy has been to make the situation as difficult for the thief as possible when leaving it in a suspected high crime area.
When most concerned I use multiple devices for securing the bike. For example a cable lock threaded through multiple items combined with a rotor lock.
Many of the new KTM's also have a steering lock.
No device is fool proof but my philosophy has been to make the situation as difficult for the thief as possible when leaving it in a suspected high crime area.
When most concerned I use multiple devices for securing the bike. For example a cable lock threaded through multiple items combined with a rotor lock.
Many of the new KTM's also have a steering lock.
#12
Only if you have the "Advanced Security Pack" which is standard on Lariat and up, optional on XLT and XL. That gives you a tilt sensor and interior sensors. I don't think the weight of someone getting in the bed would cause the alarm to sound. Mine only went off backing a heavy tractor off my trailer, which caused the rear of the truck to lift considerably.
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Greetings,
I just bought a very expensive dirt bike (KTM 300 xcw) and I’ll be hauling it in my 2017 F250. I was going to buy some heavy duty locks and chains to prevent or at least discourage theft. I noticed the cleats, which is what the chain will be tethered to, are bolted. Looks like this could be easily removed quickly with average Joe tools, like quicker than bolt cutters through a heavy chain.
Agreed?
Yes, I know that if a thief wants it bad enough he can steal it no matter what. I also have theft insurance on the bike. Should I have the cleat bolts welded?
Any ideas appreciated.
I just bought a very expensive dirt bike (KTM 300 xcw) and I’ll be hauling it in my 2017 F250. I was going to buy some heavy duty locks and chains to prevent or at least discourage theft. I noticed the cleats, which is what the chain will be tethered to, are bolted. Looks like this could be easily removed quickly with average Joe tools, like quicker than bolt cutters through a heavy chain.
Agreed?
Yes, I know that if a thief wants it bad enough he can steal it no matter what. I also have theft insurance on the bike. Should I have the cleat bolts welded?
Any ideas appreciated.
If you are worried about the bolts being easy to get out, take one out and go find a replacement that has a security torx head or some other special type head. Might at least slow someone down.
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Only if you have the "Advanced Security Pack" which is standard on Lariat and up, optional on XLT and XL. That gives you a tilt sensor and interior sensors. I don't think the weight of someone getting in the bed would cause the alarm to sound. Mine only went off backing a heavy tractor off my trailer, which caused the rear of the truck to lift considerably.
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Security bolt? Like a unique pattern, like certain lug nuts? Who sells those?