T4/SXE vs. KC38R - Decision has been made...
#976
just really likes to lug and fall out of the race when I get behind the power curve up some of those steeper Sierra grades. Makes me feel like I’m really spankin er hard when my pedal is nearing the floor board towing that TT....I don’t want to beat on the old rig like that!
@Jregezeino I know that feeling all too well and that is why I was literally laughing when we went on our recent trip to Philadelphia and I was climbing grades in VA with ease. I told my wife over the 2 way radio that the SXE turbo was such a good choice and I had zero regrets.
Haven’t hooked up my egt gauge yet since I’ve been considering the T4 kit, for which I’ve seen many pedestal designs that incorporate a boost and egt port, eliminating the need to drill and tap the manifold which I’m not crazy about doing.. I like keeping good parts unaltered.
Unaltered... The T4/SXE parts are bolt on... Nothing internal to the engine changes, nothing needs to be modified on the engine (Irate T4 requires freeze plug removed in valley). The IC and exhaust plumbing is just that, pipes and tubes...
One more thing, I usually run tanks of Diesel #2 with a 1gal/1oz mixture of super tech 2 stroke oil for upper cylinder and injector preservation. Recently I got a half tank of “bio syn up to 20% biodiesel” from a BP as that’s all that was near me, and ran it straight since I had no 2 stroke oil on me. I’ll be damned if I didn’t notice a modest performance increase running that stuff, could it be??
I used to run Stanadyne Lubricity formula through my tank at each fill up, but stopped a year or so ago and have noticed no difference in how the truck performs.
#977
Just to pile on with the other T4 SXE fan boys (I am one for sure), it is the best turbo option period. I've run stock, modded stock with billet wheel, 38R, 364.5 SXE and now 366SXE. We completed a trip across the country in March fully with our fith wheel loaded with a lot of stuff (relocation) and I used 1023 Street Shredder tune doing it with PIS 175/80 injectors. I've removed the low power tow tunes and now use 1 tune for street and towing. No way the 38R could come anywhere close to doing so. 450hp makes these trucks run around like gas trucks.
#978
Just to pile on with the other T4 SXE fan boys (I am one for sure), it is the best turbo option period. I've run stock, modded stock with billet wheel, 38R, 364.5 SXE and now 366SXE. We completed a trip across the country in March fully with our fith wheel loaded with a lot of stuff (relocation) and I used 1023 Street Shredder tune doing it with PIS 175/80 injectors. I've removed the low power tow tunes and now use 1 tune for street and towing. No way the 38R could come anywhere close to doing so. 450hp makes these trucks run around like gas trucks.
#979
Just to pile on with the other T4 SXE fan boys (I am one for sure), it is the best turbo option period. I've run stock, modded stock with billet wheel, 38R, 364.5 SXE and now 366SXE. We completed a trip across the country in March fully with our fith wheel loaded with a lot of stuff (relocation) and I used 1023 Street Shredder tune doing it with PIS 175/80 injectors. I've removed the low power tow tunes and now use 1 tune for street and towing. No way the 38R could come anywhere close to doing so. 450hp makes these trucks run around like gas trucks.
#980
The mid range and top end is definitely stronger. With the .91 AR housing it spools just slightly slower than the 364.5 with a .91. I had the 1.00 AR for a while on it because that's what was recommended but it was too slow in spooling for my taste and due to the direct comparison of a .91 it was pretty obvious. If I never had the 364.5 with .91 I'd probably have thought it was great. I do believe now the .91 is the go to for any 7.3 unless you have bigger injectors than mine.
#981
The mid range and top end is definitely stronger. With the .91 AR housing it spools just slightly slower than the 364.5 with a .91. I had the 1.00 AR for a while on it because that's what was recommended but it was too slow in spooling for my taste and due to the direct comparison of a .91 it was pretty obvious. If I never had the 364.5 with .91 I'd probably have thought it was great. I do believe now the .91 is the go to for any 7.3 unless you have bigger injectors than mine.[/QUOTE]
I looking to get a 366 soon. With the 238/100's I'm running would you recommend the 1.0 or stick with the .091. My current setup doesn't come on till +-2000 with a 1.0ar for comparison.
I looking to get a 366 soon. With the 238/100's I'm running would you recommend the 1.0 or stick with the .091. My current setup doesn't come on till +-2000 with a 1.0ar for comparison.
#982
The mid range and top end is definitely stronger. With the .91 AR housing it spools just slightly slower than the 364.5 with a .91. I had the 1.00 AR for a while on it because that's what was recommended but it was too slow in spooling for my taste and due to the direct comparison of a .91 it was pretty obvious. If I never had the 364.5 with .91 I'd probably have thought it was great. I do believe now the .91 is the go to for any 7.3 unless you have bigger injectors than mine.
I looking to get a 366 soon. With the 238/100's I'm running would you recommend the 1.0 or stick with the .091. My current setup doesn't come on till +-2000 with a 1.0ar for comparison.
I looking to get a 366 soon. With the 238/100's I'm running would you recommend the 1.0 or stick with the .091. My current setup doesn't come on till +-2000 with a 1.0ar for comparison.
The 366/.91 starts coming online around 1600rpm, 1.0 is probably around 1700-1800rpm. Even faster with larger injectors as posted below.
#983
If you plan on wringing it out, stick with the 1.0. It’ll still light quicker than the KC with a 1.0 and it’ll keep your drive pressure in check at WOT. The alternative would be to run a .91 and add a gate, but that’s not cheap. I’ve posted videos of my friend’s truck making 15psi at 1500 rpm with 238/100s and a 366/74/1.0.
#985
The Brad makes a very good point with regard to driving style. IF you drive in the 3k and up rpm a lot, go 1.0. My driving style is under 3k. seldom see 3k in fact. So .91 works better for me in combination with not so large injectors. Factor injector size and driving style but I'd say pay no mind to what transmission you have. I've found little merit in that.
#986
I don't think it's as much the combustion part as it is the fuel system components being able to handle that stuff.
One tank shouldn't make much of a difference but bio will gum up the fuel filter.
#987
Be careful about running bio. It has great lubricity but our trucks are only rated for B5.
I don't think it's as much the combustion part as it is the fuel system components being able to handle that stuff.
One tank shouldn't make much of a difference but bio will gum up the fuel filter.
I don't think it's as much the combustion part as it is the fuel system components being able to handle that stuff.
One tank shouldn't make much of a difference but bio will gum up the fuel filter.
#988
@brokestroke has done a ridiculous amount of testing, fabrication, more testing and more fabrication in an effort to find the right setup for him. He has settled on a home brew T4 kit with a home brew Borg Warner S366. He is very happy with the outcome of the T4 kit and turbo he has pretty much built from scratch after testing the KC S300 turbine wheel in several different configurations of OEM and OEM van turbos.
I mention his thread here because I think the two correlate quite well and show just what a good T4 kit and turbo can do.
Please see his thread at the link below.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...6-testing.html
I mention his thread here because I think the two correlate quite well and show just what a good T4 kit and turbo can do.
Please see his thread at the link below.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...6-testing.html
#989
#990
Yikes, an EX in Cali. You can kiss any thoughts of a T4 goodbye. Well, unless you reinstall the stock setup every time it's smog test time...Legally you're stuck with turbos that say Garrett on the housing. So modded stock or GTP38R is it
With my setup I'd see about 9# in 6th gear with that weight, but i have a ZF6, and buncha little goodies that help the modded stock turbo. You might have a small boost leak and able to see 7# towing on the flats in OD, but wouldn't expect more without slapping money at it.
With my setup I'd see about 9# in 6th gear with that weight, but i have a ZF6, and buncha little goodies that help the modded stock turbo. You might have a small boost leak and able to see 7# towing on the flats in OD, but wouldn't expect more without slapping money at it.