Thanks Brian, I was pretty sure I was close. I too bought the OCR from RiffRaff to install with the SXE because 1023 Tuning does NOT remove the CEL from their tuning like Gear Head does. Dusty told me that he prefers the driver of the truck either remove the light being set off themselves or be aware that they are approaching fuel cutoff pressures from the turbo. Even though the tuning from 1023 removes the defueling, he still has the CEL come on.

The first video is going to be more about what I purchased and why, then the second video will be how to remove the OEM parts, then going from there with the rest of the videos.

 

Waiting. Would really like to do this mod if I could get it smogged.

 

Ha! Drive through... they had those in Louisiana when I went to college there. Sssshh don't let the democrats know in case I run for office. I'm sure you'll do fine with the install, but yet, I'm not far away and have a killer set of tools!

 

Our last camping trip of the year has been scheduled and paid for.

I will start my install of the Borg Warner 364.5 SXE and Carson Stauffer Diesel T4 kit on October 29th. I hope to have it done on the 2nd, but there are several events pertaining to the install that will need to line up just right. I will have a bead welded at the end of the CAC tubes, wrapping the down pipe, possibly portions of the up pipes, painting or powder coating the CAC and intake tubes, etc... All while filming everything that I can in order to make a quality video showing from start to finish.

I have TP data logs from towing in the low country of SC over rolling hills. I have TP logs of driving the truck without the trailer. Hopefully I will have some good data to share once I am able to get some TP logs in 2019 while towing.

I am really looking forward to how the truck will perform here in my area, but more so when we take another trip across the country over the TN, CO, ID and WA mountains. My modified turbo has done very well with the 1023 tunes and if I were going to stay in this area for the rest of my life, I probably would not have bought the SXE/T4 combo. Although, I know this setup is like a new and revised 38R in the sense that it is a larger turbo, but flows better and is quieter than the 38R.

Stop light to stop light does not interest me. I am looking for consistent hauling of a 5th wheel trailer over mountain ranges and across long mid-west roads. I want the truck to run as smooth as possible, and I think the larger SXE turbo instead of the 38R will get the job done nicely. Again, the modified turbo I have on the truck now does a great job, even in the mountains of TN, but I am looking for more and think this is the best way to get it.

I am hoping that I will not have the desire to upgrade the injectors once the SXE is installed and has been tested next year. If I can keep the stock AD injectors and have the level of performance I am looking for, then I am golden and will run these injectors until they die, then get another set from Alliant and roll on. If I feel there is a need for more power, I will be looking at 160/0 or 160/80 injectors and will have the PCM reprogrammed to fire single shots instead of split shots.

More to follow starting the 29th of October. I do plan to post up some pictures of how things are going or what I may have accomplished that day, but not a lot will be posted until the video comes out.

 

I have been following your thread closely. We obviously think alike Souse. My truck just pulls our aluminum converted cargo trailer from NE Wisconsin to SW Arizona in the winter and to the National Forests in the NW in the summer. So mpg in the planes states and performance in the mountains is what I'm looking for. My main focus is above 5000' of elevation. It's not a daily driver or Viagra truck. If I stayed in the midwest (should east of the Mississippi be mideast?), I would not change anything.

I was a beta tester for the KC "SXE" version. I also had the original drop in version. I'm very happy with the "SXE", boost starts climbing fast at 1400 rpm and peaks in a hot tune just over 37 psi. The camper is around 3 ton loaded. I average 15 to 17 mpg with the camper and 18 to over 20 without it. For my rig, mpg is all about hills, wind and of course managing the throttle. I was very surprised to find out weight and speed did not have a significant effect on mpg. With a zf5 and 3.55 gears, 70 mph is ~2100 rpm. I run the PHP 80 hp tune 99 percent of the time, pulling too. For some reason, my engine idle rolls with Dusty's tunes? He tried a couple of tweaks, which didn't fix it. He offered to get in the seat the next time we can get together. I first need to decide if an .84 housing and BW SXE is in my future?

All that being said, I do want to try an .84 housing because of the zf5 and 3.55 gears. AND, if your experience turns out glorious? I will be building a T4 mount and going with a BW SXE. I'm sure if your experience is positive? A lot of bank accounts will be taking a hit.

Having replaced my stock injectors with new (NEVER remand, that's a grizzly tale) Alliant 160/0s, you would NOT regret 160s. Day and night!

Good luck sir.

 

Thanks for the encouragement. I agree, we have very similar uses for our trucks. This was a bit of a gamble for me vs. the KC38R, but after talking to testers and owners, I knew that was not my path.

The Garrett 38R is tried and true, but I cannot have a screamer under the hood.

I have high hopes for the SXE and based on what I have read and talked to many owners about, I should not be disappointed. The bending of the CSD pipes and the fit of the kit is the only thing I am unsure about and will probably have to fight with to get it to work.

The BW is a precision piece of equipment and I have 100% confidence in it.

I will provide honest and true feedback on the kit, I will mot sugarcoat anything. I don't expect OEM fit, but I do expect it to fit and stay that way. It is an aftermarket kit, so that will be a consideration as well.

Again, my hope is that the OEM injectors with 242,000 miles on them will last another 100K miles and be a great match for the 364.5 SXE. This will save me a lot of time and work on the truck. This turbo and kit will obviously be an improvement over the modified stock turbo that I run now, but will keep me out of the screamer section of the 38R and the hot EGT's section of the KC38R.

Time will tell though and I will have to wait and see how different the truck is until next spring when we travel 10K miles cross country again. We will have time to go camping around here, but the modified stock turbo does just fine, or even really well around here and in the low country of SC.

 

Double post

 

Mine goes to the muffler shop Monday morning. The downpipe is at least 1"off to the passenger side. I had hoped on a 3 1/2 x 4" adapter (and the space is perfect)...but no.

 

Keep us posted Dan. A picture of how the shop seals it up would be good, but we are most interested to hear your thoughts on noise from the turbo and first impression performance differences.

 

Noise, what noise!

 

Well, there is some "noise" from the turbo... It should not and I don't expect it to be anywhere near what the 38R produces, but I am curious to how it sounds. I know that the "noise" is relative and could be excessive to some and music to the ears for others.

In the end, I am excited and looking forward to not living vicariously through others any longer. Although, I must absorb all of the information and lessons learned I can before I put my truck under the knife.

 

38R is a much, much louder turbo than the SXE's.... I drove one for nearly 2 years and it was awful in retrospect. And, as it turns out, it puked a seal and was loosing oil out the exducer which means it went into the garbage. May have had something to do with the compressor surge I'd get with it periodically when towing hard. Who knows....

SXE is superior to the 38R, that I'll say with 100% confidence and experience.

 

Wait one second. The model of turbo has almost Zero to do with how loud it is. Sound is based off compressor wheel profile and compressor housing design. The reason an old 38r is loud is because it has a 5+5 compressor wheel in a housing with a bleed off ring. This is the same setup as the notorious wicked wheel + ats housing on the stock turbo, loud as loud gets. Unequal length blade compressor wheels in an anti-surge housing tend to be loud. Equal length 9+0 or 11+0 are usually the most quiet. The 7+7 wheel the SXE uses is a good blend of the two as they don't tend to cut the air like a 6+6 or a 5+5 wheel does. That being said basically any turbo can be TOO loud, all depends on compressor profile. My S366 came with a 7+7 compressor, it was noticable but not loud. I switched to a 6+6 compressor and it was about twice as loud.

My .02

 

No need to wait, I agree with this and this is one of the reasons why the 38R was off the table for me. That and it costs ~$1200 and is not rebuild-able or easily modified if the owner sees fit. With the SXE, I can change the turbine housing from a .91 to a .84 or 1.0 for ~$150-$200. This is important to me because I am hoping I get the right combination the first time around, but have choices if not.

Lets say the turbo is starting to show signs of needing attention in 200K miles, I have the option to have it serviced or just replace it for ~$500...

Any turbo can be TOO loud, you are right again. It is relative to the driver/owner, and I think I said that above yesterday.

Basically I am looking for the performance (or better) of a 38R, but the drive-ability and comfort (noise level) of the stock turbo. The SXE fits this bill...

The KC38R is out and not on the table, it is in the bin next to the door based on my own opinions, lessons learned and experiences of people I know and trust. Too loud, too hot and too expensive for long term use.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me, and I would not expect that. Although, I am doing my best to relay the information and options being presented to us as 7.3 owners and let them make their own decisions. It is their money, their time, their truck and their grief if they make the wrong decision.

My .02

 

Well ****, the entire 6 hours of logs I had towing the trailer have been purged from TP for some reason. Once again, TP has let me down...

When we head out for our last trip here in about a week, I will try and log towing data again... EGT's and RPM are really where my concerns are at though, so I can at least remember those two.