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Re-Examine Cruise Control Recall

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Old 04-25-2018, 11:43 PM
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Re-Examine Cruise Control Recall

I've heard that there was a recall on the original recall for the cruise control. Is this true? It seems that the recall may not completely prevent the possibility of fire. I'm thinking maybe they don't have the correct wire fused. Does anyone know if this is the case? I recently saw another nice truck lost possibly due to this. I'd rather not see more casualties.
 
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Old 04-26-2018, 12:47 AM
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This explains it pretty good:
93 & 94-96 Cruise Control Recalls Repair - Ford Bronco Forum

I have the fused harness with the blue tag.
I kind of remember my 93 was actually leaking brake fluid just a week before the scheduled appointment I had made to get the fused harness installed.
I also kinda remember the 95 wasn't subject to the recall for some reason.
I will have to look at both my 93 and my 95 tomorrow to verify.

I'm old now and my memory isn't what it used to be.
 
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Old 04-26-2018, 12:53 AM
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My '96 has the harness with the fuse and the blue tag, but I keep an eye on it anyway.
 
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Old 04-26-2018, 04:10 AM
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I had the recall done in my '95 F250 after I bought it in 2014.
 
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Old 04-26-2018, 07:57 AM
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The thing is that the fused harness is what Ford did IF the red switch was NOT leaking at the time the recall was being performed.
If the switch was leaking at time of the recall being performed, you got the switch replaced too.

The real problem was the red switch.
If you still have it just keep an eye on it.

From what I have read, when the recall was first started, Ford realized that the fused harness they were adding to the vehicles were not made correctly so they then had to re-recall all the vehicles that were just done. There was quite a wait time while enough harness were being made to get the recall done.

If you have the red switch still and/or the blue tagged harness you may want to get the proper fix done on this. It is part SW 6350 and is available at many places for less than $25.

And not all OBS trucks or Broncos of the 92-97 model years with speed control were subject to the recall. I think some have a different type switch or other protections in them already from the factory.
 
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:42 AM
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1992 model year trucks had a the vacuum operated speed control system. No Brake Pressure Switch (BPS).

The 1993 trucks were the first to use the electronic Speed Control system. The BPS was located near the RABS module along the driver side frame rail. The 1994 and later trucks had the BPS mounted on the master cylinder. All of the 1993 and later trucks were or should have been in the recall group because of the design flaw for the fused power supply circuit and the switch design.
 
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Old 04-26-2018, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rla2005 View Post
All of the 1993 and later trucks were or should have been in the recall group because of the design flaw for the fused power supply circuit and the switch design.
Yes, after going out and looking at them, I believe you are correct. This kind of jogged my memory a little bit.

My '93 truck still has the red switch and the blue tagged fuse harness. It is located just above the frame mounted RABS unit under where the steering column comes out of the firewall.
When I spoke w/ Ford about 2008 or so, responding to a notice I got in the mail pertaining to this recall affecting my '95 Bronco, this '93 truck was not included on the recall list, but probably because it had already been done at a past visit. (I can't recall when that previous visit was though??).

My '95 Bronco recall was going to be a jumper harness too, but shortly before my appointment to get the harness installed, the red switch started leaking brake fluid.
I showed that to the service writer and I actually witnessed them install the new black switch and the shorter pigtail adapter/fuse with NO blue tag.

So it looks like my '93 truck still could use the new black switch along with the improved harness adapter/fuse pigtail.
IDK, but I think it would be harder to catch on fire being mounted horizontally down low on the frame anyways, being that the brake fluid would just drip off down to the ground and not pool up the way it will on the master cylinder mounted models with a vertical mounted switch.
I'm sure that it is okay the way it is but may be prudent to replace it anyways.
 

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Old 04-26-2018, 02:38 PM
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Just popped the hood on mine, I've still got the old red switch. No sign of any leakage though.

Still going to opt to replace the whole deal.
 
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I just found this from the NHTSA website.
I looks like it was three campaigns regarding the 93-97 trucks/broncos (and also included other models as well).
As noted above, '92 OBS models didn't use this speed control system.


This website has a look up for the VIN, and you can also look up by year and model:
https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls#vehicle
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September 7, 2005
NHTSA Campaign Number: 05V388000
SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH
A FIRE AT THE SWITCH COULD OCCUR.

NHTSA Campaign Number: 05V388000
Manufacturer FORD MOTOR COMPANY
Components VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
Potential Number of Units Affected 4,500,000

Summary
ON CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS AND SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH SPEED CONTROL, THE SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION
SWITCH MAY OVERHEAT, SMOKE, OR BURN.
Remedy
BY LETTER DATED SEPTEMBER 12, 2005, OWNERS WERE INSTRUCTED TO RETURN THEIR VEHICLES TO THEIR DEALERS TO HAVE
THE SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH DISCONNECTED. OWNERS WHO HAVE HAD THEIR SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATED ARE BEING
NOTIFIED THAT PARTS WILL BE AVAILABLE AND ADVISED TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO RECONNECT THE SPEED CONTROL BEGINNING IN
FEBRUARY 2006. OWNERS WHO DID NOT HAVE THEIR SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATED ARE BEING NOTIFIED TO HAVE THEIR SYSTEM
REMEDIED BEGINNING IN FEBRUARY 2006. OWNERS ARE URGED TO AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THE FREE DISCONNECT SERVICE AS
SOON AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANT RISK OF FIRE. OWNERS MAY CONTACT FORD AT 1-800-392-3673.
(NOTE: ALSO SEE RECALLS 05V017 AND 06V286)

FORD BRONCO 1994-1996
FORD EXPEDITION 1997-2002
FORD F-150 1994-2002
FORD F-250 1994-1999
LINCOLN BLACKWOOD 2002
LINCOLN NAVIGATOR 1998-2002
.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ............................
August 3, 2007
NHTSA Campaign Number: 07V336000
SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH
THIS COULD RESULT IN AN UNDERHOOD FIRE.

NHTSA Campaign Number: 07V336000
Manufacturer FORD MOTOR COMPANY
Components VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
Potential Number of Units Affected 3,600,000

Summary
ON CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS, PASSENGER VEHICLES, SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES, AND MOTOR HOMES CHASSIS, THE SPEED CONTROL
DEACTIVATION SWITCH MAY, UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS, LEAK INTERNALLY AND THEN OVERHEAT, SMOKE, OR BURN.

Remedy
DEALERS WILL INSTALL A FUSED WIRING HARNESS. OWNERS OF THE PASSENGER CARS INCLUDED IN THIS CAMPAIGN WILL BE
INSTRUCTED TO RETURN THEIR VEHICLES TO THEIR DEALERS TO HAVE THE SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH DISCONNECTED
AS AN INTERIM REPAIR. AS SOON AS REPAIR PARTS ARE AVAILABLE (EXPECTED OCTOBER 2007), OWNERS WILL BE INSTRUCTED TO
RETURN TO THE DEALERS FOR INSTALLATION OF A FUSED WIRING HARNESS. THE RECALL BEGAN ON AUGUST 13, 2007, AND MAILING
COMPLETED BY SEPTEMBER 19, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT FORD AT 1-888-222-2751.

FORD BRONCO 1993
FORD CROWN VICTORIA 1992-1998
FORD E-150 1992-1993, 1997-2003
FORD E-250 1992-1993, 1997-2003
FORD E-350 1992-1993, 1997-2003
FORD E-450 2003
FORD EXPLORER 1999-2001
FORD EXPLORER SPORT 2001-2002
FORD EXPLORER SPORT TRAC 2001-2002
FORD F-150 1993, 2003-2004
FORD F-250 1993
FORD F-350 1993
FORD F-450 SD 1993
FORD F-53 1995-1997
FORD F53 1998-2002
FORD RANGER 1998-2002
FORD TAURUS SHO 1993-1995
LINCOLN MARK VIII 1993-1998
LINCOLN TOWN CAR 1992-1998
MERCURY CAPRI 1994
MERCURY GRAND MARQUIS 1992-1998
MERCURY MOUNTAINEER 1999-2001
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February 4, 2008
NHTSA Campaign Number: 08V051000
SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH
AS A RESULT, THE FUSE IS LOCATED IN THE OUTPUT CIRCUIT RATHER THAN IN THE INTENDED INPUT POWER FEED CIRCUIT,
AND MAY NOT OFFER THE INTENDED PROTECTION IN THE EVENT OF AN ELECTRICAL SHORT TO GROUND.

NHTSA Campaign Number: 08V051000
Manufacturer FORD MOTOR COMPANY
Components VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
Potential Number of Units Affected 225,000

Summary

FORD IS RECALLING 225,000 MY 1992-2003 ECONOLINE, MY 1993-1995 TAURUS SHO, MY 1992-1998 CROWN VICTORIA,
MY 1993 BRONCO, F-SERIES, MY 1995-1997 F-SERIES SUPER DUTY STRIPPED CHASSIS, MY 1992-1998 MERCURY GRAND MARQUIS,
AND MY 1992-1995 LINCOLN TOWN CAR VEHICLES.
THE AFFECTED VEHICLES WERE PREVIOUSLY REPAIRED USING A WIRING HARNESS THAT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE VEHICLE CIRCUIT
POLARITY.

Remedy
DEALERS WILL INSTALL A NEW WIRING HARNESS, OR REPLACE THE MATING ELECTRICAL COMPONENT.
THE RECALL BEGAN ON FEBRUARY 18, 2008. OWNERS MAY CONTACT FORD AT 1-800-392-3673.

FORD BRONCO 1993
FORD CROWN VICTORIA 1992-1998
FORD E-150 1992-2003
FORD E-250 1992-2003
FORD E-350 1992-2003
FORD ECONOLINE 1992-2003
FORD F-150 1993
FORD F-250 1993
FORD F-350 1993
FORD F-450 SD 1993
FORD F-53 1995-1997
FORD TAURUS SHO 1993-1995
MERCURY GRAND MARQUIS 1992-1998
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Ford's solution to the last recall was to install fuses on both sides of the circuit. The harness they installed on my truck has two fuses.
 
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Hmmm. Bought my truck in early 06 & got the notice shortly after.

And damn if it ain't a red switch.

Dual fuses?

 
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I wonder how simple the swap is for the new sensor. Will there be a need to bleed?
 
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I'll have to look, but I'm believe I still have the red switch too and only remember seeing one fuse on the recall harness. I'm guessing I should disconnect it for now.
 
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If you're looking for info on the 05S28 recall, there were 16 supplements for that recall. I dont see the alleged "re-recall" of the incorrectly made harnesses - I do see two different harnesses & I DO see interim repair methods. Early harnesses that were largely vehicle specific were single fuse deals. The later harnesses were adapted for universal use and had two fuses. See below:



Concerning interim repairs, it looks like, due to lack of parts availability, that Ford authorized the temporary decommissioning of the speed control system so that owners could continue to drive their vehicle.

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I wonder how simple the swap is for the new sensor. Will there be a need to bleed?
Per the service manual on the recall, You were supposed to fill the brake reservoir to the top, drip new brake fluid into the new sensor, remove the old sensor and while fluid was flowing out of the master cylinder install the new sensor. It does say if you let the air enter the system to bleed but should not occur during normal service.
 

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