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Old 04-15-2018, 12:08 PM
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Old 04-16-2018, 10:40 PM
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You are correct. That is exactly why the OP should zero in on the travel trailer they want first. Once they pick their TT, they will know what they need to safely and successfully pull that TT making it easier to pick the right truck for the job and ... they will not be limited by a premature, undersizing miscalculation/decision.
Not to hijack this thread but, will a F250 4x4 CC SB, Gas or Diesel be able to pull/handle this. Im trying to get a handle on whats possible and whats not as far as towing and what to look for and this would be at our upper limits.
Actually more than what I want but the little lady saw it and at least its something to compare with.
https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...orplans/2950rl

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GVWR of 8995 would yield a pin weight of around 1,800 lbs, fully loaded. That's a fairly light fifth wheel. Compare that pin weight to the cargo capacity of an F-250. Sure, it will pull it, but you'll have to be careful to not load much in the truck. A better alternative would be to get an F-350 which will give you a much better buffer on cargo capacity. My well options F-350 6.7L CCLB 4x4 Lariat Ultimate has a cargo capacity of just over 3,100 lbs.
 
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GVWR of 8995 would yield a pin weight of around 1,800 lbs, fully loaded. That's a fairly light fifth wheel. Compare that pin weight to the cargo capacity of an F-250. Sure, it will pull it, but you'll have to be careful to not load much in the truck. A better alternative would be to get an F-350 which will give you a much better buffer on cargo capacity. My well options F-350 6.7L CCLB 4x4 Lariat Ultimate has a cargo capacity of just over 3,100 lbs.
Wait, its a TT. either you missed typed it, or my link was bad?
 
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Old 04-16-2018, 11:54 PM
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Sorry, you're right. For some reason I thought you said it was a fifth wheel. That trailer will be just fine with a F-250. Figure about 900 lbs of tongue weight, maybe a bit more.
 
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Originally Posted by SDTruckMan View Post
Not to hijack this thread but, will a F250 4x4 CC SB, Gas or Diesel be able to pull/handle this. Im trying to get a handle on whats possible and whats not as far as towing and what to look for and this would be at our upper limits.
Actually more than what I want but the little lady saw it and at least its something to compare with.
https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...orplans/2950rl

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Either the gas or the diesel would work with that trailer. The gasser would give you more available payload than the diesel, as the diesel is obviously a heavier truck which would eat into your payload by approx 500-600 lbs. Tongue weight would most likely be in the 1170 -1260 lbs, based on full GVWR of 8995 lbs. The diesel version of your truck will only have about 2000-2100 lbs of payload, whereas the gasser will be approx 500 more. Make sure you buy a high quality Weight Distribution Hitch to go along with the rig, and make sure that there is some type of sway control for it.
 
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That's almost exactly the specs on my 2014 Outback 295RE we pull with a 2011 F-250 Lariat FX4 CCSB 6.2L.
We're mostly pulling Texas flatlands/hills with the Hill country stuff thrown in. No issues at all.
I use a Blue Ox WDH (came with TT) and swapped out the stock hitch for a Curt XD+ with a 2550 TW rating n it. My TW is a around 1300-1400 loaded up for camping.

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Old 04-17-2018, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SDTruckMan View Post
Not to hijack this thread but, will a F250 4x4 CC SB, Gas or Diesel be able to pull/handle this. Im trying to get a handle on whats possible and whats not as far as towing and what to look for and this would be at our upper limits.
Actually more than what I want but the little lady saw it and at least its something to compare with.
https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...orplans/2950rl

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The TT you're looing at is rated at 9,000 lbs. by the manufacturer. Many do not include options in that number. If it were me, I'd figure another 2,500-3,000 lbs. for people, fuel, weight distribution hitch, camping supplies, water if you drive with full tanks, tools and possible TT options if not included in the initial 9,000 lbs. weight rating. Taking the accepted 10-15% of TT weight as recommended tongue weight, you'll likely come in at somewhere between 1,200 to 1,500 lbs. on the tongue.

Either a gas or diesel F250 will pull this. However, if it were me, I'd step up to a F350 for the extra GVWR (on paper). BTW - the older F250 and F350's are essentially the same truck except for the larger 4" rear blocks in the F350 and the higher GVWR. You'll also want to look at things like tow package option, and the camper package option too.

Good Luck and let us know where you end up.
 
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The TT you're looing at is rated at 9,000 lbs. by the manufacturer. Many do not include options in that number. If it were me, I'd figure another 2,500-3,000 lbs. for people, fuel, weight distribution hitch, camping supplies, water if you drive with full tanks, tools and possible TT options if not included in the initial 9,000 lbs. weight rating. Taking the accepted 10-15% of TT weight as recommended tongue weight, you'll likely come in at somewhere between 1,200 to 1,500 lbs. on the tongue.

Either a gas or diesel F250 will pull this. However, if it were me, I'd step up to a F350 for the extra GVWR (on paper). BTW - the older F250 and F350's are essentially the same truck except for the larger 4" rear blocks in the F350 and the higher GVWR. You'll also want to look at things like tow package option, and the camper package option too.

Good Luck and let us know where you end up.
I think you missed that this was listed as a dry weight of 7295 lbs. After adding options and cargo it's a GVWR of 8995 lbs. I think it's smart to assume you will at at GVWR when going down the road. Assuming you'd be a few thousand pounds over that number seems like a recipe for disaster.
 
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Old 04-17-2018, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sunuvabug View Post
The TT you're looing at is rated at 9,000 lbs. by the manufacturer. Many do not include options in that number. If it were me, I'd figure another 2,500-3,000 lbs. for people, fuel, weight distribution hitch, camping supplies, water if you drive with full tanks, tools and possible TT options if not included in the initial 9,000 lbs. weight rating. Taking the accepted 10-15% of TT weight as recommended tongue weight, you'll likely come in at somewhere between 1,200 to 1,500 lbs. on the tongue.

Either a gas or diesel F250 will pull this. However, if it were me, I'd step up to a F350 for the extra GVWR (on paper). BTW - the older F250 and F350's are essentially the same truck except for the larger 4" rear blocks in the F350 and the higher GVWR. You'll also want to look at things like tow package option, and the camper package option too.

Good Luck and let us know where you end up.
You might have misread, the camper is rated for max weight of 8995 lbs. It's empty weight is estimated at 7295 so that makes for roughly 1700 pound of stuff ...water, food, clothes, etc can go into the camper. Would want to weigh it all once it's loaded to verify all axle weights (truck and camper axles).

Any super duty of any configuration will pull this camper fine. In fact, a properly equipped F150 can do it. Regardless of the truck, watch how much weight goes into the bed. And if the bed is empty and you're getting a superduty anyway, I'd take a look at fivers. They cost a little more, but are much easier and faster to hitch/unhitch. TT's tow well when properly hitched but will never be more stable than a fiver.
 
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Old 04-17-2018, 08:22 AM
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Yup ... you're both right ... I missed the 7,295 Lbs. UVW / 8,995 GVWR. I still don't trust RV manufacturers weight ratings. Our truck camper says 2,640 lbs. actual weight from the factory. Got it weighed and it's 20% above that ... unloaded.
 
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I don't trust them either, but until you get to a scale, using the gvwr isn't crazy and on a tt will be close to your loaded weight in my limited experience
 
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Yup ... you're both right ... I missed the 7,295 Lbs. UVW / 8,995 GVWR. I still don't trust RV manufacturers weight ratings. Our truck camper says 2,640 lbs. actual weight from the factory. Got it weighed and it's 20% above that ... unloaded.
Sometimes the factory weight doesn't include options. So what you get is the weight for a very base model. It varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. Buyer beware. Trust, but verify. Etc, etc...
 
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If you look a little longer, you can get a TT with bunks in the back, a slide out, and an outdoor grill set in the 25-26' range. That's a ton shorter than 34'. 25'+ isn't fun for me.

My 17 250XL was rebated down to $38,000. Only a little over your budget, new. I'd suggest a 6.2L F250, WD hitch, and a rear sway bar for an under 9000# TT.
 
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