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Old 04-15-2018, 09:01 AM
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Wow! There are a lot of strong opinions here from people who only know what they’ve read on the internet. This is exactly one of the things that makes the internet dangerous. Here is a man, and a business, being absolutely trashed by many who know very little about what really happened. I think we need to steer clear of becoming an internet jury. I have no idea what the actual facts of this situation are. If he did in fact break the law, he needs to be punished accordingly. I don’t know if he did and if so, to what extent. Plain and simple.



A news article,is a news article,be it on the net,your local or national news channel or in your local news paper.
He admitted to doing it so,yeah.

“While hiking in the Moab area with my family, I drew with a sandstone shard, a heart with my and my wife's initials and the year above it."

“I accept full responsibility for my actions,” Andersen wrote.
“Neither Andersen Hitches nor its hard-working employees, who are committed to supporting our loyal customers and their own families, had any involvement in my wrongdoing. To those dedicated employees, I offer my sincere apology. Going forward, I will do everything I can to show my employees, my community, and the public at large that this conduct is not what I stand for.”


Andersen faces a maximum penalty of one year in jail and a fine of $100,000 if he is charged and convicted of a Class A federal misdemeanor for willfully defacing public lands.

Federal charges may be in store for Corona Arch vandal
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I don't see anyone here being upset with his business nor trashing it.I see concerned folks (rightfully so) being upset with our public lands being trashed.Here in America,we are all so blessed as land stewards.We all collectively own millions of acres that must be cared for and respected.
We must trust the authorities to protect our set aside sections of mother earth that is protected for wildlife,for our recreation and our enjoyment.If not for us,then our children.The witness who saw him was right."He can't do that".




All life is sacred and all creation is related, what we do effects the whole Universe, so let us walk in balance with Mother Earth and her people." - Smiling Bear
 
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Old 04-15-2018, 11:21 AM
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I respect your opinion. Thanks for sharing.
 
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He’s not the sort of person I do business with.

End of story.
 
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Old 04-19-2018, 12:57 PM
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The guy messed up. Impulsively acted without really thinking. He regretted his actions and owed up to it.

He needs to get his wrists slapped, reasonably fined with proceeds used to remediate the damage (or a like worthy cause). And then we should all just move on.
 
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Slapping his wrists isn’t going to remediate the damage he did. Neither does a small fine.

Do you think he needs a participation award too?

By the looks of it, the guy is a two time offender.

maybe a little time in the greybar would help, along with a permanent ban from setting foot on BLM and NPS lands.
 
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:27 PM
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Slapping his wrists isn’t going to remediate the damage he did. Neither does a small fine.

Do you think he needs a participation award too?

By the looks of it, the guy is a two time offender.

maybe a little time in the greybar would help, along with a permanent ban from setting foot on BLM and NPS lands.

The term used was "reasonable" fine. You turned it into "small". How much does it cost to un-scratch a rock?
Yes it is very possible this is a second offense, but it'll never be proven to any legal standard.
The guy is a childish jackass, I don't think there is much debate on that. If what he did is in fact against the law, I hope he gets an adequate/appropriate fine.
As much of a stupid turd I think he is, I think people calling for debilitating fines and jail time for scratching a rock need to get a life. Get over it. Let the legal system do it's job. I think he's going to be paying for this the rest of his productive life. He's already been tried in public opinion, and the internet makes for a damn big jury.
 
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How , exactly, do you unscratch a rock? Did you see the other pictures with his name “scratched” in the rock? That’s not repairable.

your arguments seem rather ingenuous when you start off by dismissing the vandalism as a minor act.
 
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You fellas are veering further off track everyday and are running the risk of having this thread closed.

I think he is childish, but deserves his day in court just like a murderer, abuser or molester (despite my personal opinion on their sentence, or death sentence should be). No matter what my thoughts are on what Andersen's punishment should be, I am not a judge on the case and I certainly don't know if he is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

I have seen some pretty damning video and testimony, which turned out to be taken out of context or played just right to incriminate someone when that was not factual.

I don't fault the employees at Andersen or the work that they have done on behalf of Mr. Andersen. They make a good product and I will support the product and employees, not the owner. I think most of us can say that we have worked somewhere or for someone that was shameful or just an outright dumba$$.

Innocent until proven guilty, and it looks like he will have his day in court.

P.S. - I still think it is funny that he may have been carrying around a second license plate, who does that besides 007?
 
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How , exactly, do you unscratch a rock? Did you see the other pictures with his name “scratched” in the rock? That’s not repairable.

your arguments seem rather ingenuous when you start off by dismissing the vandalism as a minor act.
I didn't dismiss it as a minor act. Is it your reading, or your comprehension skills that lack? If you were capable of comprehending, you'd be aware that I said It's quite possible he DID the previous act, but will never be proven to any legal standard. Unless of course he is the only person named Andersen. I am the person who first posted the other picture (Andersen '16 I think it said) so yes I saw how deeply gouged it was. Try engaging your brain before putting your mouth in gear.
 
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It's time for a few posters to step back from their keyboards before this thread gets locked, First Warning.

I know this is a whole thing is very personal to some of us me included but insults will not be tolerated.

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I can say we can all agree to disagree.... I am ready for this set of posts to close and I am sure lots of others are too. The foul deed had been done and he will get his day in court. No one here will add or subtract from whatever sentence he gets...fine, jail some in between. Mods, please close this thread and lets get back to RV's. Or move it to some other forum. PLEASE.
 
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I still think it is funny that he may have been carrying around a second license plate, who does that besides 007?
007 is a fictional character in movies and comic books. The only real life people I've ever seen carrying around a second license plate are crooks... people with intentional aims to break laws and not get caught.

From commuters evading bridge and toll road enforcement, to cash strapped payment buyers hoping to evade repossession of their vehicles, to drug dealers, to car thieves, to illegal immigrants, to smugglers, to some of my neighbors whom I've known since they were children but who somehow took the wrong turn in life (most often due to drug addition)... these are the only real people who carry a second license plate... to avoid getting caught.

And that could be the crux of what is concerning here. To any extent that a business owner demonstrates a lapse in ethics in one area of life, what does that say about his or her ethics in other areas, not the least of which may be in the administration of their business? And to the extent that the lapse of ethics is pre meditated (carrying alternate plate) and known in advance to be wrong (else why switch plates), what does that say about the person's propensity not only to do wrong in business, but to already have devised ways to cover up that wrong doing?
 
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007 is a fictional character in movies and comic books. The only real life people I've ever seen carrying around a second license plate are crooks... people with intentional aims to break laws and not get caught.

From commuters evading bridge and toll road enforcement, to cash strapped payment buyers hoping to evade repossession of their vehicles, to drug dealers, to car thieves, to illegal immigrants, to smugglers, to some of my neighbors whom I've known since they were children but who somehow took the wrong turn in life (most often due to drug addition)... these are the only real people who carry a second license plate... to avoid getting caught.

And that could be the crux of what is concerning here. To any extent that a business owner demonstrates a lapse in ethics in one area of life, what does that say about his or her ethics in other areas, not the least of which may be in the administration of their business? And to the extent that the lapse of ethics is pre meditated (carrying alternate plate) and known in advance to be wrong (else why switch plates), what does that say about the person's propensity not only to do wrong in business, but to already have devised ways to cover up that wrong doing?

Some people decided to call such a person; The President of The United States lol.
 
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I kind of wondered what these guys were up to...

 
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