Utility trailer sways when pulling

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Old 04-01-2018, 04:08 PM
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As a start I would try and get the trailer nose level and see what that does for you.
Trailers are meant to tow level and yes un-loaded & loaded can/will tow different.
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It sounds like its loaded fairly well...if the 1400lbs is 4ft from the front of the trailer and the 900 is at the back.
What are you pulling the trailer with? And is everything level as far as the hitch heights?
Also...Are both pieces centered width wise?
Sounds like a WDH will help.
 
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Old 04-01-2018, 06:17 PM
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Thanks for the input guys. I’ve pulled it both with my f150 and my f250. Same result with both. The tow height mever changed as far as the trailer being level, the problem started once I added the extra 1000# piece of equipment and moved everything around. Guess I’ll try leveling it out with an adjustable hitch and if that doesn’t work, illl pick up a ldh with sway controll.
 
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I would suggest a weight distribution hitch with a sway bar.
 
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Old 04-01-2018, 09:56 PM
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First things first;
1. What are you towing with?
2. Need axle weights of the towing vehicle without the trailer.
3. Before hooking up the trailer, measure from the top of the wheel well to the top of the tire both front and rear.
4 Connect the trailer and measure the tire to wheel well front and rear again. If you come up an inch or more you are unloading the front axle, causes a tremendous amount of sway due to less traction, I had a travel trailer I towed behind an F-100 like that, scariest thing I ever drove. Gotta shift weight if this happens back to the front axle so a distribution hitch is needed. Also make sure that you are not overloading the rear springs. Scarry sight is a truck that's been lifted with enough weight that on the rear that the rear is 4" lower than the front. Due to pulling heavy for work I put air bags on my truck.
5 Gross weight for all individual axle weights of the truck and the trailer together. can be hard to get individual weights on the trailer axles so weigh these together. MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT OVER YOUR AXLE WEIGHTS!!!!
6. Set the tongue up on the trailer as level as you can get it, install the appropriate drop or rise bar. This will make the trailer handle so much better.

These are the items I learned over the past 40 years driving tool trailers and a wide variety of different travel trailers from the east to the west coast and from Alberta Canada to Houston.
 
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I use Tuson RV Brakes TSC-1000 Sway control it is amazing it controls my sway so fast. i also use there dl-100 brake controller best investment i have ever made.
 
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Old 05-08-2018, 03:01 PM
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try tuson rv brakes sway control best that i have ever used its for electronic brakes and your trailer will never sway again it independently brakes per the side that its swaying on.
 
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Originally Posted by Yoteman
Thanks for the input guys. I’ve pulled it both with my f150 and my f250. Same result with both. The tow height mever changed as far as the trailer being level, the problem started once I added the extra 1000# piece of equipment and moved everything around. Guess I’ll try leveling it out with an adjustable hitch and if that doesn’t work, illl pick up a ldh with sway controll.
The problem started when you added the 1000 extra pounds toward the rear? Then you have too little tongue weight. This IS the problem and nothing but moving wieght forward will change it.

 

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The problem started when you added the 1000 extra pounds toward the rear?
He said it was over the axles not behind.
 
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Doesnt matter. By adding the weight rearward, he took weight off the tongue. If he doesnt KNOW his tongue weight, Then he is *** U MEing that he has enough. And we know how that works, correct?
And I will wager a case of beer on this.
 
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Doesnt matter. By adding the weight rearward, he took weight off the tongue. If he doesnt KNOW his tongue weight, Then he is *** U MEing that he has enough. And we know how that works, correct?
And I will wager a case of beer on this.

Thanks for all the feedback guys. I resolved the issue weeks ago. I had way too much tongue weight causing my problem. I moved things toward the rear a little balancing the trailer out better and problem resolved.
But now I’m gonna have to add in another 1000 pounds which is probably gonna really throw everything off because the only place to fit this new 1000# is.........yup, in the front for more tongue weight lol
 
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Old 05-09-2018, 10:41 AM
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Thanks for all the feedback guys. I resolved the issue weeks ago. I had way too much tongue weight causing my problem. I moved things toward the rear a little balancing the trailer out better and problem resolved.
But now I’m gonna have to add in another 1000 pounds which is probably gonna really throw everything off bescause the only place to fit this new 1000# is.........yup, in the front for more tongue weight lol
In other words, it was not the trailer swaying, but the tow vehicle swaying because the steer axle was too light. There is a difference.. Clarification always helps. And best of luck to you.
 
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Old 05-09-2018, 10:54 AM
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In other words, it was not the trailer swaying, but the tow vehicle swaying because the steer axle was too light. There is a difference.. Clarification always helps. And best of luck to you.
no, the trailer was swaying. In other words, The trailer would barely even stay in the same lane as the truck because it was swaying from one side of the lane to the other.
 
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This would be interesting to study. Years back we (several FTE members) did some hauling tests of different trucks and set ups up "buffalo hill". That would be neat to put the same kind of effort in with scales, adjustable loads, different hitch set ups, and different trucks to see what happens.
 
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