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Old 03-21-2018, 01:01 PM
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Also need a drop Pittman arm.

Should be able to find one fairly easily. Any of the major suspension companies should have one like rough country, superlift, tuff country, fabtech, bds, icon.
 
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Also need a drop Pittman arm.
Good point. Since you're basically doing a lift now instead of a leveling kit, you'll need an adjustable track bar bracket too if you don't have one.

Pitman arm can be a pain to get off. Buy a puller with a lifetime warranty in case you need to exchange it. I used the big 2 prong puller for one. Had to cut the teeth down a tad to fit around the pitman arm, but that's not where the first one broke. The second one got it off. PB blaster likely helped.
 
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Longer brake lines?

Any idea on sourcing longer brake lines?
 
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Any idea on sourcing longer brake lines?
I'm assuming you are asking about hoses for a lift. If so, try Crown Performance
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Old 03-25-2018, 08:09 PM
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I think I got mine from 4 wheel parts. They sell a lot of lift kits and had a good price on stainless braided lines. (you just have to replace the flex line from the fitting down to the wheel).
 
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Any idea on sourcing longer brake lines?
How much total lift will you have? I have a 4" on mine and I didn't need a drop pitman arm or longer brake lines, all I had to do was bend the front brake line brackets down some.
 
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The idea behind the longer lines is so that the suspension can have it's full range of travel, with a safety margin, and not cause a problem. Think using a ramp to jump another car and how much your truck will bounce when it lands. Or if you jack it up by the frame and let the wheel drop all the way down.

The drop pitman arm is for geometry reasons. Less wear and tear on the steering components the closer to horizontal the linkages are.

Will it work without these? Sure. But things are going to wear out faster, and that one big pothole might lead to a brake nightmare.
 
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The idea behind the longer lines is so that the suspension can have it's full range of travel, with a safety margin, and not cause a problem. Think using a ramp to jump another car and how much your truck will bounce when it lands. Or if you jack it up by the frame and let the wheel drop all the way down.

The drop pitman arm is for geometry reasons. Less wear and tear on the steering components the closer to horizontal the linkages are.

Will it work without these? Sure. But things are going to wear out faster, and that one big pothole might lead to a brake nightmare.
That's true but with my suspension at full drop my factory brake lines with the bracket modified are long enough, also I have been lifted for 3 years still using the stock pitman arm with no steering issues.
 
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You shouldn't need longer brake lines. If I recall correctly if you take one of the clamps off it will net you more then enough room to have the length that will be acceptable. I'm going off of memory here too but I don't believe I needed to have longer lines with my SD with 8" lift and 38x15.5s. I want to say I either relocated the bracket or there was enough "give" in them and that's with me actually using a lifted truck as a lifted truck including air time
 
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Lift kit installed.... oh maannnnnn...





Hard part was drilling the new holes for the center bolt... hard metal... needed a cobalt twist bit made by Irwin. And had to keep sharpening it on the grinding wheel. Pain in the a$$.
so I bought the new front leafsprings about 2 yrs ago..with the 2 inch lift ... they sagged almost immediately... sux... .
when I put my self made spring pack on, it corrected for that sag which I wasn't expecting.. so instead of a 2.5 in lift... I may be closer 3.5 or 4 in lift. May need to remove some plates...
other issue was the center pin size.. our trucks are stock 7/16.. the pro comp 22210 leaf springs are 3/8... WTF...?? I had purchased some nice stainless tie bolts which I couldn't use now unless drilling out the pro comp springs...
never a break... right?

The two in the middle with the black tape are the center of the stock springs. I cut them down to 24 inches... I think they are the primary reason for the correction of the sagging from the aftermarket procomp springs. Those pro comp springs suck...

finally went out and measured... I started at 2.75 inches lower in the front than the back. The spring plates I added were a total of about 2.25 inches total thickness... after the install, the front is now an inch higher than the rear. So. A total increase of 3.75 inches... and 1.5 inches of height I wasn't expecting.

This means the pro comp springs 22210 sagged at least 1.5 inches in under 2 years and under 10,000 miles. That's pretty bad.
 

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Current dilemma... raise the back 2 inches or lower the front 1.5? I have a 3 inch block in the rear + the stock one... The easier thing to do is the rear... I could replace the 3 inch with a 5 inch block. Or, I could just reduce the spring pack in the front by 1.5". but thats harder with the track bar and other stuff in the way...
 
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Current dilemma is for looks or for pinion angle? If for looks, the rear is easier like you said.
 
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Current dilemma... raise the back 2 inches or lower the front 1.5? I have a 3 inch block in the rear + the stock one... The easier thing to do is the rear... I could replace the 3 inch with a 5 inch block. Or, I could just reduce the spring pack in the front by 1.5". but thats harder with the track bar and other stuff in the way...
Get rid of those stacked blocks and put a 7" pair of these in the rear. Ford F-250/350 Fabricated Lift Blocks
 
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Old 08-10-2018, 08:27 AM
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So... procomp came through with superior customer service and product support. After I called them about the sagging springs. They shipped me new front leaf springs... no charge..
 
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Old 08-21-2018, 02:07 PM
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Got the back leveled up...


 
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