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Old 05-23-2018, 08:15 AM
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I did as Mark said, then I took a little drive at slow speed, and when I came back had another look at the oil level.
But before I had parked it, I noticed a soft slipping noise, in all gears forward, and in reverse. So I looked at the oil level, and it was overfilled. I tried to get some oil out, but that's not easy if you don't wanna spray oil all over when you undo the carter. so I tried one of the cooler hoses, jee, that's slow!,so I tried the TC drain plug, but that TC was too hot to touch. I let it cool off, and then took about half or 3/4th of a liter out.

I do think though that that soft slipping noise is from the TC clutches, could that be possible? every time I add some oil, ans pass all the gears with ticking over engine, you hear them, with exeption of the P and N gear.

but it sure is difficult to determine the correct level of trans oil on the dipstick!!!
I'm still not sure for the correct level, but Im sure that slipping noise shouldn't be there!
 
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:26 AM
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I killed the engine, and left for about half an hour, then I came back and had another look at the trans oil level, without starting the engine, It read about 1 cm above the crosshatched area on the dipstick. I don't know, I got the feeling I'm doiing something wrong here, am I???
 
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Are you checking the trans fluid with engine running or off. If your checking the fluid with engine off then your reading will be incorrect.

The engine needs to be running To check the fluid level. Start the engine, cycle the shifter through all the gears then back to park and leave engine running. Then check the fluid level. There should be a cold and hot mark on the Dipstick depending on the temp.

If that dipstick is like mine, it’s a royal pita to get a correct reading expecially with new fluid. I bet I take 5-10 readings till I know where it’s at and more each time I add fluid.
 
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put black heat shrink on it but when you are done take it back off
 
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Originally Posted by bart f-350
I killed the engine, and left for about half an hour, then I came back and had another look at the trans oil level, without starting the engine, It read about 1 cm above the crosshatched area on the dipstick. I don't know, I got the feeling I'm doiing something wrong here, am I???
What you're doing wrong is reading the fluid level with the engine off. That reading is meaningless.
 
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Bart,
Do you know KTS in Hamburg, Germany? They have a technical dept and should be able to supply proper TC screws.
 
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I've made a small film with my fotocamera,so you can hear what the odd sound is?, but I have no Idea how to insert that here, can anyone help me with that?
 
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I've made a small film with my fotocamera,so you can hear what the odd sound is?, but I have no Idea how to insert that here, can anyone help me with that?
It would have to be a small video to upload it here. You might have to upload it to Youtube and post the link here.
 
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Old 06-09-2018, 08:59 AM
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Well, I guess you call it a video, though I never have done something like that before, uploading to youtube???
 
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Well, I guess you call it a video, though I never have done something like that before, uploading to youtube???
I can do it for you if you E-mail it to me. The address is my username @ gmail.com
 
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Old 06-10-2018, 03:58 AM
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That would be supernice!
Thank you.
 
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Here is Bart's transmission video. Sounds like mine did when it got low on trans fluid.

 
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Originally Posted by eatont9999
Here is Bart's transmission video. Sounds like mine did when it got low on trans fluid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wgSJUVZaCw
Thanks Eatont9999.
yes, This video is made when I started the engine, and then run trough all gears, and back just as you should before checking trans fluid.

I noticed that after I did this 3 times, and shut down the engine, the Torque converter was waay too hot to touch, so I guess that the clutch material is gone from the TC clutches, so its steel on steel, and therfore heats up the TC???

Just a guess, but if there's anyone out there who knows about, please enlighten me?
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Thanks Eatont9999.
yes, This video is made when I started the engine, and then run trough all gears, and back just as you should before checking trans fluid.

I noticed that after I did this 3 times, and shut down the engine, the Torque converter was waay too hot to touch, so I guess that the clutch material is gone from the TC clutches, so its steel on steel, and therfore heats up the TC???

Just a guess, but if there's anyone out there who knows about, please enlighten me?
Thanks.
You are welcome. No problem for me.

The TC has a clutch in it but that does not engage until TC lockup and only when driving. The TC clutch being worn or not worn has no effect during this test. The TC does generate a lot of heat but we would need a temperature number to tell if it is out of the normal range.

You didn't find any trash in the fluid you drained out, right?
 
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another strange thing (at least to me) happened when I was taking out the transmission.
I couldn't get the starter out! in the rear there was the engine (look at the yellow lines) and in the front was the crossmember, I tried to wiggel it up, there was no place either. is that starter too long?? or what? 7.3IDI with E4OD.
 


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