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Old 03-13-2018, 12:45 AM
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Who has a transmission drain plug?

I just got my new 18 cclb king ranch f350 and I had heard that some trucks had transmission drain plugs and some didn't. Unfortunately mine does not have a drain plug which will make a mess the first time I replace the fluid and install a plug. Is it really 150k mile intervals? I am coming from three consecutive duramaxs and am learning a lot about these 6.7 ps. Also this trans regularly runs 200 degrees which is sky high compared to the Allison which ran under 140 degrees. I know I have a ton to learn but I just can't believe an $80,000 truck doesn't have a transmission drain plug. I don't know how to start a poll but it'd be interesting to see who has one or who doesn't and when they stopped the transmission pans with a drain plug. My truck was built 1/17/18 from what I can tell.
 
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Interesting. I haven't looked under my 2017, but my 2016 has a small drain plug in the bottom of the pan (see photo). Since the 6R140 Ford transmission has been used on all 6.7L diesels since 2011, I'd be surprised if they removed it.

The book does specify 150k filter intervals. There are two filters internal to the transmission. There is no external spin on filter like an Allison. The higher operating temps of this transmission are quite normal, and pulling a heavy load it will go well above 200F. This transmission is a better unit than the Allison 1000. It simply is more heavy duty and has an excellent track record.

 
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:01 AM
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My 2017, built in August of 17, doesn't either. I'm planning on just buying the pan with drain plug. It's pretty cheap, less than $53 MSRP from Ford. I'm pretty sure the part number is BC3Z-7A194-B. Also, Dorman sells it too, part number 265-830.
 
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Old 03-13-2018, 09:36 AM
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My 2017, built in August of 17, doesn't either. I'm planning on just buying the pan with drain plug. It's pretty cheap, less than $53 MSRP from Ford. I'm pretty sure the part number is BC3Z-7A194-B. Also, Dorman sells it too, part number 265-830.
Thanks for the info. I hate that mine doesn't have the drain plug also.
 
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Rock auto is not listing any pans for 17+ transmissions. The part number given above is listed for 11-16. Did something change or is rock auto a little behind on listing updates?
 
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My 2017, built in August of 17, doesn't either. I'm planning on just buying the pan with drain plug. It's pretty cheap, less than $53 MSRP from Ford. I'm pretty sure the part number is BC3Z-7A194-B. Also, Dorman sells it too, part number 265-830.
I just got a confirmation from a local Ford dealer that the above part number does fit the 2017's.
 
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Old 03-13-2018, 12:41 PM
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I just got a confirmation from a local Ford dealer that the above part number does fit the 2017's.
Nice! Thank you! Now do you buy the dirt cheep one from rock auto ($21.79 + shipping) or the FoMoCo...I think the Rock auto one is painted and the ford is raw
 
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Old 03-13-2018, 01:12 PM
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I just got a confirmation from a local Ford dealer that the above part number does fit the 2017's.
Did you by chance see if it has the drain plug? Maybe all new pans come without the drain plug, with part numbers being superseded and all these days.
 
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All of mine have drain plugs, but my newest is a '16. 200 degrees is awful hot for an automatic that isn't working hard, but given the 6R140's fluid capacity and the exotic fluid it uses (don't use anything but the Ford recommended fluid!) it's O.K.. I have had good luck with the 6R140, but I still think the Allison 1000 is a a little more heavy duty (shafts and internal parts are huge). Both are overkill for a pickup.

BTW- I hear great things from new F-250 owners with 6.2L/TorqShift G powertrains. The smaller transmission seems better suited to the gas engine than the slow-shifting 6R140.
 
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Old 03-13-2018, 02:27 PM
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Did you by chance see if it has the drain plug? Maybe all new pans come without the drain plug, with part numbers being superseded and all these days.
Not in person. Only on the TASCA website.
 
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Yes, the drain interval is 150k miles. Mine does not have a drain plug, but this is of no consequence. Not trying to be overly pragmatic here, but say you want to add a drain plug. Okay by me and I won't try to talk you out of it but consider this; If you run the truck to or near the recommended change interval -150k miles or about half the truck's service life...give or take and assuming you keep it to 300k miles- and you have to do the change, so you drop the pan, drill the pan and put in a plug. No leaks? Good. Now you're good to go for another 150k miles. So, you're on your second change interval and the plug finally pays off...kind of.

The pan has a reusable seal, which means it ain't quite like the days of the cork or fiber seal where the pan was stuck and even though your left a couple bolts in so it wouldn't cause an Exxon Valdez spill in your garage -well, it still happened because the pan would rarely just ease away from the flange. So, you almost always got the flood. But this pan uses a different seal that will allow the pan to ease down to drain without the great oil wash. Yes, a drain plug ensures a relatively clean operation but you might not even own the truck long enough to see the utility of the plug.

Also, with a capacity of nearly five gallons, that's an awful lot of fluid to do something about.

I don't know, maybe a trans fluid change is something you'd want to farm out to the dealership every 150k miles. But that's just me.
 
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:04 PM
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There's no way in heck I'm waiting until 150k to change the transmission oil. That's just me.
 
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My 2017 F250 CCSB 6.7 PS was built 7/17 and it DOES have a drain plug in the trans pan. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones!
 
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Is this about the 6R140 transmission exclusively? Mine’s not here yet but it is a gas F250 with the other transmission. Hoping it can be drained....
 
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Old 03-13-2018, 06:42 PM
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Is this about the 6R140 transmission exclusively? Mine’s not here yet but it is a gas F250 with the other transmission. Hoping it can be drained....
psdxohio, I just looked under my '17 F-250 gasser and it appears that the TorqueShift-G transmission does not have a drain plug. However there is a notation on the pan that the gasket is reusable.
 
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