Do you need an EDL for F-350 trucks?
pulling hotshot? LTL? Campers??
I got off the road 9 yrs ago and I know alot has changed.
Thanks Fert

 

CDL you mean? "Asked and answered":

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-for-f350.html

Well, I think there is an answer there, I didn't go through the whole thing.

Basic CDL is the same everywhere. Some of the exemptions vary by state, so pull up YOUR state's motor vehicle/driver license site.

Campers are usually "exempt", with fewer rules. Farming activity for YOUR farm is also "exempt" with fewer rules. Commercial activity, :"hotshot" or "LTL" will require a medical card at least, since I'm pretty sure most F350s GVWR at over 10,000.

Good luck.

 

Looking at EDL exemptions.

 

ELD exemptions. This is the ONLY place to ask that question:

https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/faq/what-e...ng-device-rule

 

So some companies will allow to hotshot for campers/5th wheels, but you still need medical and registration to 26K.

 

 

No. That is not correct. Anything over 10,000 pounds needs log books, medical, etc. If it is newer than model year 2000 you need an electronic logging device. As of April 1st, 2018 if you are required to have an ELD and don't have one it is 10 hours of out of service, it is just like not have a record of duty status. You will be allowed to continue your trip. If you are caught on another trip and have not corrected it, it is rinse and repeat.

If you're delivering a camper and not carrying any cargo back on a return trip (with is a drive away/tow away operation), then yes you are exempt. So you have your F-350 and you pulling a trailer that carries campers or other items, you need to have an ELD.

Some of the exemptions, drive away/tow away operations. (deliver a truck, then hop in another or catch a flight for your next dispatch.) As I stated before you use your F-350 to deliver a camper then drive home empty that fits a drive away/tow away operation. Any vehicle older than model year 2000 or equipped with an engine older than 2000. Another exemption, if you need a logbook less than 8 days in any 30 day period. Example being local delivery one day you leave the local area. (100 miles in a CDL qualified vehicle or 150 miles in a non CDL qualified vehicle.)

Additionally, once you deliver and return to home or for your next dispatch, that time cannot be claimed as Personal Conveyance.

 

it is my understanding that the tow away is if the vehicle is the cargo.... ie: motorhome, or the guy that drives the new peterbilts down the road.
yet if the tow vehicle is yours... your company property, and 2K and newer motor then you need an EDL.

when I talked to the CME in TN I forgot to ask about the F350, I just started asking about the big trucks.

thanks Fert

 

 

 

395.8(a)(1)(iii)(A)(3)
A motor carrier may require a driver to record the driver's duty status manually in accordance with this section, rather than require the use of an ELD, if the driver is operating a commercial motor vehicle:
In a driveaway-towaway operation in which the vehicle being transported is a motor home or a recreation vehicle trailer:

I happen to use an app called KeepTruckin on my phone for HOS logging (it is not an ELD) but could just as easily keep paper logs.
No idea what your statement concerning personal conveyance (which is correct) is pertaining to though.

 

 

The personal conveyance guidance was updated to specifically require F350 type trucks who are returning to pickup another travel trailer to log driving for the return trip rather than off duty even though a F350 SRW (with 10k GVWR) is no longer a CMV after unhooking from the travel trailer.

Even an F150 pulling a trailer for profit or to further a business is required to use logbooks and register for a USDOT numver if it puts you over 10K GCWR, which would be almost anything with tandem axles.