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I bought a F-350 but the camper squats the truck worse than my 2011 250 did with lower stableloads...I still have to put my 19.5s on this truck ....there still on the old truck...would you go with air bags ? Or a couple of more leaf springs?
I would have pulled up about a truck length so the rear end isn't sitting in a valley and over exaggerating the squat. Any full size hard side is going to squat any truck. My brother has an F450 and still needs airbags so it sits level. I had airbags on my F350 dually for my camper and they worked great. IMO, if you're hauling a decent sized slide-in, airbags are a must.
I use Air Bags on all for my Trucks that carry a Camper. Truck Campers are heavier on one side. You correct that balance with Air Bags. I'm using
Lower Stable Loads, Air bags and Hellwig Big Wig rear sway bar on my 17' F350. Drives just fine.
I use Air Bags on all for my Trucks that carry a Camper. Truck Campers are heavier on one side. You correct that balance with Air Bags. I'm using
Lower Stable Loads, Air bags and Hellwig Big Wig rear sway bar on my 17' F350. Drives just fine.
if if I go with the air bags will I need a better sway bar ? The one on the truck looks flimsy....
if if I go with the air bags will I need a better sway bar ? The one on the truck looks flimsy....
I’d take it one step at a time. Get the 5000 ultimate airbags and take a couple trips. I think you’ll find they make all the improvement you need. Even my 450 likes airbags when hauling thenTC.
I have upper Stableloads and Airlift 5000 Ultimate airbags on my F350. My camper is a Northern Lite which fully wet weighs about 3600 lbs. Mine does not squat and I only run about 40-45 lbs of air in the bags when fully loaded.
It may just be my eyes but it looks like your camper is sitting pretty far back on the truck if you look at the distance between the front of the bed and the camper. I don't know what your payload is etc. on your truck or what your camper weighs but I cannot imagine it weighs any more than my Northern Lite. You will not "need" 19 1/2 inch tires although if you have them why not use them.
The photo of mine shows the camper on my truck, fully wet with 40 lbs of air in the bags. I also will vary the air depending on conditions and sometimes run at 25 lbs. Airbags are your friend with a truck camper!
I would also add that my truck is perfectly level on my driveway in this photo.
Thanks for all the info ! ....it just aggravates me that I buy a $53,000 dollar truck and I still have throw more money at the problem of hauling the camper....looks like I'm going for the air bags....I have a appointment for Friday to get them installed....I should have just bought this and been done with it ....
The CoG of that camper looks to be above or behind the rear axle. Together with the hitch extension, I wouldn't be surprised if you transfer weight from the front to the rear axle.
Have you weighed your rig? What is your rear axle weight - and can the single rear tires carry it safely?
We have a 2015 Chevy Silverado 3500HD long box with the Duramax diesel, and with rear Stableloads. I haul a 9.6 ft Bigfoot 2500 series, weighting about 3,000 lbs. With the diesel, we have less carrying capacity than the gas engine, and we were thinking of a 2018 F350 long box gas engine, with the camper package, and not requiring air bags or Stableloads.
If the original post model is an 8.4S with a slide, dry weight is about 3,000 lbs. Loaded, it could be over 3,800 lbs. This could be the cause of the truck squat.
If the original post model is an 8.4S with a slide, dry weight is about 3,000 lbs. Loaded, it could be over 3,800 lbs. This could be the cause of the truck squat.
I found the original scale tickets from last November....these are from a NJ state certified scale ....
The truck ...camper ....groceries ...full of gasoline...two twenty pound dogs ....me and the cook
Just the truck with a full tank of gas ....
3480 is the total weight of the load ....sorry but as far as I'm concerned that might be heavy to some but I feel the suspension on these new trucks suck...
taycotrains - is your truck a diesel? If so you have a lesser payload than a gasser, as the engine adds power but its weight reduces your payload.
The truck is a 6.2 gasser....after owning 6.0 diesel (and almost getting divorced over it) the next truck I ever own that has a diesel will be a B Model Mack....
I do have Air Bags, Rear Stable-Loads and a Hellwig Big Wig Rear Sway Bar. But in this picture, it's just sitting on the Springs. No mods being used.
There is still 1" before either the front, or rear overloads engage.
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