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2016 Ford F-350 6.7 with 45,000 mile Particular Filer needs replacement

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Old 02-14-2018, 03:46 PM
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2016 Ford F-350 6.7 with 45,000 mile Particular Filer needs replacement

I was driving my truck engine lite went on. Brought it to my dealer and they said they need to replace the particular filter. It is still under warranty. Why would this filter fail like that. Is it because of it not being able to regen? I would love to hook a programmer up to it and run my own regents but it will void the warranty. Did anyone have this problem with there truck?
 
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:25 PM
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Hooking up a scanner or laptop with FORScan should not void your warranty. A programmer might but have yet to see any reports that it has.

As with any part, there is a failure that might occur at anytime. You DPF just happened to be outside the bell curve and one of the outliers. It could have been due to no regens. or incomplete regens that stopped it up or maybe a regen cracked the core.

You can get a monitor such as the Edge CTS/CTS2 and monitor it along with doing a manual regen. FORScan on a laptop can do a manual regen also. You can monitor with FORScan on a smartphone.
 
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What Just Strokin said... who knows... It's why there is a warranty. Another forum member here with less miles than you had his DPF crack. Although in his case, it wasn't enough to set a CEL but before he ran out of warranty he had the dealer replace it.

At least it failed PRIOR to your warranty expiring and not after. I seem to hear complaints about it failing just after the warranty expires as it isn't a cheap repair. And deleting isn't cheap either.
 
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Forscan or the Edge Insight CTS/CT2 will not void a warranty. They are merely monitors/code readers. My inclination would be to do a manual regen first to see if that clears the problem. You can have the dealer do it for you if you are not comfortable with doing it yourself. And I suggest using Enerburn to keep the soot buildup down.
 
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If the dealer is willing to replace the DPF at 45,000 for free, I'd have it done regardless. That's 45,000 miles of life you're getting for free.
 
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If the dealer is willing to replace the DPF at 45,000 for free, I'd have it done regardless. That's 45,000 miles of life you're getting for free.
At 45,000 miles and the dealer tech is calling a DPF, they would require prior approval from Ford before proceeding with the replacement. Assuming prior approval has been granted, I am curious as to what the engine hour count is on this truck. I have a 2016 F-250 as well with 70,000 kms. (not sure what that is in miles) so it doesn't give me a very warm and fuzzy feeling. Of course, I am a dealer tech as well so worst case scenario, I would be replacing it myself if the need arose.
 
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A simple conversion for km to miles is multiply km * 0.6 = approx miles. 70,000 km = approx 42,000 miles. Same goes for km/h to mph - 100 km/h aprrox 60 mph.
 
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Originally Posted by m-chan68
At 45,000 miles and the dealer tech is calling a DPF, they would require prior approval from Ford before proceeding with the replacement. Assuming prior approval has been granted, I am curious as to what the engine hour count is on this truck. I have a 2016 F-250 as well with 70,000 kms. (not sure what that is in miles) so it doesn't give me a very warm and fuzzy feeling. Of course, I am a dealer tech as well so worst case scenario, I would be replacing it myself if the need arose.
For is replacing the particulate filter under warranty. If they are already replacing this now am I going to change this all the time? What really stinks it going to snow here in Massachusetts and I don’t have my truck.
 
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:45 AM
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I think you are just lucky. Might want to put a dollar down on the latest MegaMillions. In the sense that, for every truck with 45,000 miles needing a new DPF there are probably 10,000 and maybe many more that don't. If everyone was needing to replace it at 45,000 or even 100,000, this forum and every other would be rife with threads about it. If this forum is any gage, radiators are replaced much more often than DPFs.
 
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For is replacing the particulate filter under warranty. If they are already replacing this now am I going to change this all the time? What really stinks it going to snow here in Massachusetts and I don’t have my truck.
DPFs are very expensive...it will be interesting if the dealer notes the cost on your warranty paperwork. Tasca parts has a 2016 OEM DPF for sale at about $2300.

Officially, Ford states the DPF needs to be "cleaned" at 120k miles and replaced at 240k miles.
 
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I just got the truck back yesterday. It didn’t have how much it cost but I looked up the part numbers and it looked like it was around $2600 before labor.

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DPFs are very expensive...it will be interesting if the dealer notes the cost on your warranty paperwork. Tasca parts has a 2016 OEM DPF for sale at about $2300.

Officially, Ford states the DPF needs to be "cleaned" at 120k miles and replaced at 240k miles.
 
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I'd be curious as to why they think it failed as well. I had the DPF on my 2016 plug solid when the intercooler pipe blew. DPF was 95% full when the pipe blew, and of course because the engine light came on, the truck wouldn't go into regen. In the few miles limping to the shop, the DPF plugged solid, and it had to go the last few miles on a tow truck. In my case, it wasn't the DPF itself that failed, it was the result of a **** poor design of an intercooler tube that Ford has known about and refused to update since 2011...
 
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