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Old 01-22-2018, 10:53 PM
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Heavy Service Suspension = Factory Level?

Iím sure this has been discussed before, but I canít find any threads on it.

Iím planning on buying a 2019 F-250 Lariat 6.2L. Iím looking to do some type of level, but my problem is thereís really nothing for the 6.2L Super Duties. I donít want to do just a puck/spacer level, I want to do a true suspension level and achieve a better ride. Even a 1.5Ē level would be good for me, I donít mind a little bit of a rake, I just want to decrease the rake from the factory a little. I really like the Carli kits, but again, I will be buying a 6.2L and their kits are designed for the 6.7L PSD. I reached out to them, they said the kit will work on the gasser, but will result in more of lift up front which I donít want.

Anyways, since there really isnít any type of true suspension level for the 6.2L my quest has led me to consider the Heavy Front Suspension option or the Snow Plow/Camper Package from the factory. Both of these options say ď1-up upgrade...Ē My question is does this result in a higher front-end? Will this give me any lift up front or does it just stiffen the front coils with no added height? Iíd prefer more of a factory ďlevelĒ to reduce the potential issues in the future and the amount of products I have to add to make it right i.e. adjustable track bar, caster shims, radius arms, etc. I could always add some better shocks later to smooth out the stiffer ride.
 
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Old 01-23-2018, 09:27 AM
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I have the snow plow prep with a 6.7 on an F350, which means the 6000 lb GAWR. Mine sits roughly 1" higher than similar trucks without the snow plow prep.
 
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Old 01-23-2018, 09:39 AM
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I have snow plow prep and 5th wheel prep and I sit about 2" lower in front. But I sit 2" total higher than my 2011 that did not have the snow plow prep or fifth wheel prep. I did not compare to another 17 though.
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Old 01-23-2018, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 17350kr View Post
I have snow plow prep and 5th wheel prep and I sit about 2" lower in front. But I sit 2" total higher than my 2011 that did not have the snow plow prep or fifth wheel prep. I did not compare to another 17 though.
17 F350 ccsb.
You mean the front is about 2" lower than the back? If so, that is my experience as well. Other 2017s run about 3-3.5" rake.
 
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Old 01-23-2018, 10:49 AM
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My 6.7 with the heavy service springs sits with a 3 inch difference
 
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Old 01-23-2018, 11:28 AM
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You don't need longer springs. I researched it as well. Spacers and a 3" lift would stink. But a 2" longer spring, doesn't really gain any travel over the stock spring. It's just 2".

IIRC Bilstein had a 2"gas spring for a 2008-2012 Super Duty. Fits the '17 most likely.

I suggest the BDS kit. You'll have 1" of rake left with the plow kit, so camper should be GTG.
 
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Old 01-23-2018, 12:05 PM
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If you want to do this after taking delivery then you will need to know a few things.

1. Find out which coils you have on the truck. This can be found on your door card under springs. There will be a code of 1 or 2 letters and or numbers.

2. Ford currently has 4 or 5 coil rates from (i believe) 4800 lbs up to 6000 lbs. These coil rates are identified by that code.

3. Go to your Ford parts department and they can tell you what you have and what is available. You can do this online but it can be a PITA trying to sort though all the superfluous info thats out there.

You most likely will not have to add anything else to this mod. Im pretty sure the track bars are the same across most models. An alignment is the only thing I see that you will need.

Remember. Going up in value will raise the truck some and will most likely give a firmer ride.
 
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Old 01-23-2018, 12:37 PM
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You don't need longer springs. I researched it as well. Spacers and a 3" lift would stink. But a 2" longer spring, doesn't really gain any travel over the stock spring. It's just 2".

IIRC Bilstein had a 2"gas spring for a 2008-2012 Super Duty. Fits the '17 most likely.

I suggest the BDS kit. You'll have 1" of rake left with the plow kit, so camper should be GTG.
Any idea what the stock suspension travel in on these trucks? I canít imagine itís over 8 inches in which case 2 inches may be useful during full flex. But if the truck will never be subjected to that then spacers would be fine.
 
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Old 01-23-2018, 12:49 PM
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OP. I noticed you asked the same question back in may of last year. I don't think that anything has really changed since your last question on this.

But I found this by doing a search. It doesn't involve your specific vehicle but you should get some idea as what to look for.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...awr-front.html
 
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Could lower the Rear with shorter blocks. A lot of folks here have done it with great results. There's a thread in this section about it somewhere.
 
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Old 01-23-2018, 01:55 PM
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Snow plow prep is going to offer the tallest of any front end height available for a Super Duty. Even then it will not be level. A F-250 with snow plow prep will be much more closer to being level then a F-350 as the rear is not as high.

I find the 6.2 snow plow prep to sit taller then the 6.7.
 
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My F-250 with hd tow and and heavy service front susp.
 
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Old 01-23-2018, 04:15 PM
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Any idea what the stock suspension travel in on these trucks? I canít imagine itís over 8 inches in which case 2 inches may be useful during full flex. But if the truck will never be subjected to that then spacers would be fine.
The longer front springs won't give any more down travel. That's limited by shock length. A longer shock won't know the difference between a spring and a spacer.

And the short springs aren't limiting up travel either, the bump stop should hit before coil bind.

Obviously, this doesn't apply to 4" systems. They need longer springs, and more room to compress as the travel is increased with even longer shocks. Sadly, not all of that available travel is safe to use, the bump stops get lowered to keep you safe.
 
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Old 01-23-2018, 05:51 PM
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I have a 2017 6.2L crew s/b 4x4, 5th wheel prep, non snow plow. I did the leveling front kit from ready lift. The back end from floor to bottom of fender wheels is 34-1/2". The front is 33-1/2". It comes with everything needed to do it right. Ride/steering is the same.
 
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Old 01-23-2018, 05:58 PM
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Not to hijack but I just looked at my spring code. DDDD. Is that 5600# front and back?
Front gvwr #5600 rear #9900
 
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