48-52 Taillight bracket repair
#1
48-52 Taillight bracket repair
So after some careful searching I was able to locate both the right and left cast taillight brackets that would be correct for a 48-52 F1 having a bumper. The right hand side was by far the hardest......and I found it in Washington, one of the few states actually requiring it funny enough.
On the right side, one light screw hole is damaged, with part of the cast missing . My initial thought was to form it up with JB weld or epoxy putty and then grind it down to match the cast around it, I guess I could also use metal working solder doing the same matching to the cast, but wanted to get the thoughts from the experts......
JB
Pic of both the left and right hand cast brackets
See the damage around this hole
On the right side, one light screw hole is damaged, with part of the cast missing . My initial thought was to form it up with JB weld or epoxy putty and then grind it down to match the cast around it, I guess I could also use metal working solder doing the same matching to the cast, but wanted to get the thoughts from the experts......
JB
Pic of both the left and right hand cast brackets
See the damage around this hole
#3
I wouldn't use any kind of paste product. I never had luck using JB weld for most repairs the ads tout it does.
I think the only good repair would to weld it. Since it's not a stressed area I'd weld it with my MIG welder, building up the area and then grinding it down to the proper shape. Then take a small drill and drill a small pilot hole and then drill it out to the proper size.
Another thought, buy a brass bolt the size of the hole. Lay it into the remaining part of the hole and then weld around the bolt. Most likely the weld will penetrate the brass bolt and it won't want to come out easily but would be easier to drill out than the welded metal. I use brass to back up a weld if I have to build up a piece of steal with my welder. The weld doesn't stick to the brass.
I think the only good repair would to weld it. Since it's not a stressed area I'd weld it with my MIG welder, building up the area and then grinding it down to the proper shape. Then take a small drill and drill a small pilot hole and then drill it out to the proper size.
Another thought, buy a brass bolt the size of the hole. Lay it into the remaining part of the hole and then weld around the bolt. Most likely the weld will penetrate the brass bolt and it won't want to come out easily but would be easier to drill out than the welded metal. I use brass to back up a weld if I have to build up a piece of steal with my welder. The weld doesn't stick to the brass.
#4
#7
Trending Topics
#8
You know that several suppliers carry these?
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/1938-...teel,2339.html
Also don't forget the wire shield:
https://cgfordparts.com/wwwsectionfi...ht-Wire-Shield
.
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/1938-...teel,2339.html
Also don't forget the wire shield:
https://cgfordparts.com/wwwsectionfi...ht-Wire-Shield
.
#9
You know that several suppliers carry these?
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/1938-...teel,2339.html
Also don't forget the wire shield:
https://cgfordparts.com/wwwsectionfi...ht-Wire-Shield
.
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/1938-...teel,2339.html
Also don't forget the wire shield:
https://cgfordparts.com/wwwsectionfi...ht-Wire-Shield
.
Pete this pair is an original cast set, 81y-13470 and 13471. The flanges are offset on the lower mount hole to facilitate it attaching over top of the tailgate hinge. This enables the taillight to sit higher and keep the tag from being hidden by the bumper. The right 13470 (the one that needs repaired)is a rare bird as it was really only required in Washington and Missouri.JB
#10
That bracket could be TIG welded with cast iron rod or it could be brazed. TIG welding with cast iron rod or brazing would be undetectable after painting, and also would be soft enough that you could dress the weld down easily. MIG welding cast iron will leave a very porous and very hard weld.
Mark
Mark
#11
[Also don't forget the wire shield:
https://cgfordparts.com/wwwsectionfi...ht-Wire-Shield
.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't aware that there was a wire shield that belonged with the tail light bracket. Where is it placed and, was it an original part or something offered by aftermarket suppliers?
https://cgfordparts.com/wwwsectionfi...ht-Wire-Shield
.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't aware that there was a wire shield that belonged with the tail light bracket. Where is it placed and, was it an original part or something offered by aftermarket suppliers?
#12
That’s a good reminder on the shields. I bet they cover that up so it’s not even detectable.
If if they don’t Mark the brazing idea sounds promising. Would I just fill the missing chunk with a brazing rod, if so what would be the best type of rod to use? Also should I preheat the piece in the oven?
JB
If if they don’t Mark the brazing idea sounds promising. Would I just fill the missing chunk with a brazing rod, if so what would be the best type of rod to use? Also should I preheat the piece in the oven?
JB
#13
That’s a good reminder on the shields. I bet they cover that up so it’s not even detectable.
If if they don’t Mark the brazing idea sounds promising. Would I just fill the missing chunk with a brazing rod, if so what would be the best type of rod to use? Also should I preheat the piece in the oven?
JB
If if they don’t Mark the brazing idea sounds promising. Would I just fill the missing chunk with a brazing rod, if so what would be the best type of rod to use? Also should I preheat the piece in the oven?
JB
.
#14
Pete this pair is an original cast set, 81y-13470 and 13471. The flanges are offset on the lower mount hole to facilitate it attaching over top of the tailgate hinge. This enables the taillight to sit higher and keep the tag from being hidden by the bumper. The right 13470 (the one that needs repaired)is a rare bird as it was really only required in Washington and Missouri.JB
Looks crooked bit the truck is jacked up right now.
Also I checked the part numbers that you provided and it looks like Dennis Carpenter has a cast brackets but they are for a '38-'47 Ford Truck. Don't know if they fit or not or are the right shape.
Tail Light Bracket | Dennis Carpenter Ford Restoration Parts
Tail Light Bracket | Dennis Carpenter Ford Restoration Parts
.
#15
Yes, I tried mounting mine on the upper set of holes but then the plate hit the body or interfered with the tailgate.
Looks crooked bit the truck is jacked up right now.
Also I checked the part numbers that you provided and it looks like Dennis Carpenter has a cast brackets but they are for a '38-'47 Ford Truck. Don't know if they fit or not or are the right shape.
Tail Light Bracket | Dennis Carpenter Ford Restoration Parts
Tail Light Bracket | Dennis Carpenter Ford Restoration Parts
.
Looks crooked bit the truck is jacked up right now.
Also I checked the part numbers that you provided and it looks like Dennis Carpenter has a cast brackets but they are for a '38-'47 Ford Truck. Don't know if they fit or not or are the right shape.
Tail Light Bracket | Dennis Carpenter Ford Restoration Parts
Tail Light Bracket | Dennis Carpenter Ford Restoration Parts
.
Case in point. I was restoring a '63 1/2 Falcon and it needed the high hats in the vents intakes. The Ford folks all had them for Mustangs but none of them listed it for the Falcon even though it looked exactly like what I needed. So I took the plunge and ordered a set. Perfect fit. I told the vendor and suggested they add it to their Falcon offering. Nothing. No response, no addition. So maybe someone here should try the older Ford offering to see if in fact they can be modified to work.
Later!
Mr. Ed