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Old 01-09-2019, 09:25 PM
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I’m telling you guys they’re gonna bring it with this new Bronco. Ford is already all but out of the car business and going close to all in on just SUVs and trucks. They want a piece of that pie which includes Wranglers, Tacomas and Colorados. With the Ranger return and soon refresh they’ll no doubt take a big bite out of Tacoma. Bronco will have Wrangler fans as well contemplating life decisions real soon
I really really hope you are right, but having owned and built 3 Jeeps, I can tell you it will be much harder that you think to get the wrangler fans to make the switch unless the new bronco is nearly identical to the original rugged machine that they debuted in the 60s
 
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Hopefully solid front axle.
 
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And manual transmission.
 
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It's this attitude that is killing me... And perhaps killing FoMoCo as well - the "I can't" attitude! A bankrupt Fiat/Chrysler can do it but FORD MOTOR COMPANY just "can't" !?!?! It is not IF they can do it it is if they WANT to do it. I am old enough to remember the debacle of the Mustang II and the point when the front wheel drive Ford Probe could have become the next Mustang. Ford can make good decisions and really terrible decisions!
If by debacle you mean 4 of the top ten annual sales of mustangs (ever) and beating year by year sales of mustangs for the past 20 years during the oil crisis, then yeah, Ford completely blew it. The Mustang II might be considered the ******* child of Mustangs but by every measurement a complete sales success. As Lee Iacocca said, ‘it was the right car at the right time’. I think it’s hard to say the Mustang II was a bad decision.
 
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While I do believe the Bronco will be something good I’m not convinced it’ll compete directly with Wrangler people who actually use them... you know off roading. I do believe it’ll steal the most potential Wrangler buyers from the ones who buy them for the look... which is a lot of them. This said I think they’re are going to bring something off road worthy and of course aftermarket will more than fill in the gap.
 
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I think with the new explorer being released with rear wheel drive it might share with the bronco
 
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I think with the new explorer being released with rear wheel drive it might share with the bronco
The Explorer shares a "CD6" unibody platform with the Lincoln Aviator, which is designed to be primary rear wheel drive (with available AWD).

The Bronco, however, is going to be body-on-frame, and that 'frame' in the name is a "T6" chassis that it shares with the Ranger, Everest, and Troller T4, which is capable of supporting solid or independent axles and all sorts of drive systems (the Troller T4 for example has a locking rear diff and Torsen limited slip front diff for solid axles).

What the Explorer and Bronco might share are the 10-speed automatic transmission Ford puts in nearly everything now, and hopefully the 3.0L V6 Ecoboost, which in the Explorer will be producing the same numbers that the 3.5L was doing for the outgoing 5th gen model (365hp and 380lbft). Plus some other engines probably, like the hybrid we'll find out about next week in Detroit.

On the optimism side, maybe the 7-speed manual MT-88 transmission could be seen in both, Explorer ST and off-road or performance oriented trims of the Bronco? Might as well finger-cross for the Coyote V8 too!
 
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