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Old 01-17-2018, 10:56 AM
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Nothing you mentioned screams diesel to me. Get the gasser.

Diesels ain't so hot for lawn care. Too many short hops, not enough long drives. Regen kaput.
 
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Old 01-17-2018, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Buliwyf View Post
Nothing you mentioned screams diesel to me. Get the gasser.

Diesels ain't so hot for lawn care. Too many short hops, not enough long drives. Regen kaput.
I actually agree with this thinking, but all of our local Lawn Care trucks are Diesels. Hmmmm
 
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Old 01-17-2018, 11:03 AM
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What TopSpeed said.

I would also look at a 3.5 EB if 5-6K is what you will mostly tow. More practical than a 6.2 in almost every way.
 
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Originally Posted by Mysticstang View Post
Iím also curious what kinda mpg the gas and Diesel engines are getting... around town, highway, towing etc. I know there are factors but Iím just wanting to see what some others are getting on average.
I use my truck as my daily driver when not towing. I get 14-15 mpg in town and 16-17 on the hwy depending on the speed limit. Towing our 15K pound toyhauler I get 9 mpg @62-65 mph and 10 mpg @ 55-60 mph roughly. DRW with 4.10 gearing.
 
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Old 01-17-2018, 11:18 AM
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In this situation, I would go gasser. This coming from a diesel guy. I went diesel because I tow heavy frequently and also tow an enclosed 34' gooseneck enclosed trailer on long trips.
 
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Originally Posted by Mysticstang View Post
So I’m wondering the day we pull the plug on a new superduty to get either the gas or diesel?

i will be using this truck for both our lawn care business and pulling a camper. For right now the camper would only be a 5-6k in weight. But on the lawn care side it would be pull a dump that could weigh up to 10k but mostly just around town.

Of of course we all now the price difference is about $9k which is a lot of money! Could make the difference between a sly and a lariat which honestly I love out lariat f150 and want to have the big brother to that truck lol.

One other factor is that the 6.2 gas is a flex fuel correct? We have e85 for 1.19 currently so that would be a significant savings on fuel compared to 2.79 for diesel when it comes to around town driving.
Well......I will over-ride what everybody else has stated!!!

Deep down, I think you know what you really WANT! Go for it.....it will be the only one that YOU are really satisfied with!!! Either will do the job without problem.......unless you get a lemon???? Which can be either. But if you do go with the gasser, definitely get the 4.30 gears! I had a 6.2 with the 3.73’s and it was always hunting on the slightest hills, even when empty not towing. ! Anf IF you go with the diesel, and sometime in the future you decide to go with a bigger TT/5er or what ever......get the 350 and you will be covered.
 
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:30 PM
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Personally, I like the diesel a lot more for daily driving, and a whole lot more for towing. The 6.7 is just a joy to drive.
 
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Ive havent had and couldnt imagine having an SD that wasnt a diesel. I would just get what you want and dont bother dickering around over single digit percentages of this and that. Ive only owned Fords in my life. All bought new andIve never once worried about mpg. I just got what I wanted. For the average joe the mpg ratings differences arent very significant imo. I guess what Im saying is... If youre buying a SD Fxxx, fuel milage probably isnt so much of a concern as much as “ am I getting what I want”. Who the heck buys these things for their mpg!? Diesel or gas.

That said. I do realize their are a lot of people here who do. Long haulers and long commuters etc... I totally get that and I dont blame them. I tow with mine for my business but its usually short trips and 5-8k lbs. The 6.7 isnt breathing hard with that kind of weight. As some have said, its effortless. Imo its the superior engine in every way. If you can have it why not get it. Not knocking the 6.2. Its a badass engine.

Just my opinions.
 
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Originally Posted by Strokin-A-2010 View Post
You'll get horrible mpg using E-85 and you won't make as much power.
The mileage part is true but if e85 cost half of what gasoline costs do it. You should save a little money overall. Power wise the e85 is very high octane so kind of like running premium. Power should be the same or better. I think the last 5.4 in the f150 made an extra 10hp on e85.
 
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The mileage part is true but if e85 cost half of what gasoline costs do it. You should save a little money overall. Power wise the e85 is very high octane so kind of like running premium. Power should be the same or better. I think the last 5.4 in the f150 made an extra 10hp on e85.
Power comes from the amount of BTUís in the fuel, not the octane rating. Of the automotive fuels used, diesel has the most, then gasoline, then ethanol. Of course there are LPG, LNG, etc, that are in the mix also.
 
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[QUOTE=Strokin-A-2010;17731619 3.73 gears not 4.30's cause you'll get better mpg since you're worried about fuel prices.[/QUOTE]


If you could please post data for this, I'm certainly interested. It seems logical and I see the idea posted quite often. I have tracked 6.2 mpg for a few years and find no real average difference.
 
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Old 01-18-2018, 06:36 AM
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Power comes from the amount of BTUís in the fuel, not the octane rating. Of the automotive fuels used, diesel has the most, then gasoline, then ethanol. Of course there are LPG, LNG, etc, that are in the mix also.
Available oxygen in cylinder determines how much power you can make. That doesnít change because you switched from gasoline to ethanol or methanol for that matter. The injectors just push more fuel with e85 to make up the btu difference and get the same air fuel ratio.
 
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Originally Posted by windellmc View Post
Available oxygen in cylinder determines how much power you can make. That doesn’t change because you switched from gasoline to ethanol or methanol for that matter. The injectors just push more fuel with e85 to make up the btu difference and get the same air fuel ratio.
What?
As a guy who builds engines I gotta say there is a lot more to making power than the swept volume of a cylinder.
And what of engines that have no injectors? They simply make less power on e85.
 
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Hello there I currently drive a 1996 Ford F250 7.5 , and I am looking at this 1994 Ford F250 flatbed 7.3 Turbo. The gentleman has it priced at 4,250$ currently, the truck is fairly clean with not much rust and has currently 265,000 miles on it. Is 4,250 a good price for this truck because I am interested in buying it? Thanks
 
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As far a which engine to get that’s been beat to death on here already, most say diesel and the rest say gas. All I can say is if you go with the 6.2 for sure get the 4.30 gears! If pulling a trailer you will not like the 3.73, I drove that combination for nearly 6 years and hated that truck. It always felt sluggish and hunting for a lower gear. My new 17 with 4.30’s is night and day different, and it gets the same mileage too boot! It is even slightly better because the motor isn’t being lugged so badly and reving so high to move. The guys saying the mileage will be much worse with the lower ratio don’t have one and never seem to be able to back up their quote with any proof. Either engine is a great choice, the 6.7 doesn’t like short trips and needs to be worked or you will most likely have emissions problems in the future. If you go for the 6.2 just turn the key and drive it, don’t worry about hurting it because they are pretty tough. I personally have never had a 6.7 but my company has a few and I would say the mileage difference between the two would be at most 4-5 mpg or so max. Probably less from what we’ve seen. Typically diesel is about .50 cents a gallon more than gas in my area so is it worth it with the additional maintenance costs if the engine is working all of the time??? It’s ultimately up to you.
 

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