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Old Jan 12, 2018 | 08:03 PM
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4wd Not Working

4wd stopped working today. Manually locked hubs still no. If the vacuum line going to the 4x4 out of the reservoir doesn’t kick the pump on when separated and 4x4 is on with key on, does that mean bad switch?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2018 | 09:30 PM
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Bad pump, bad switch, bad fuse?
Get a code reader and see if any codes are present.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2018 | 09:46 PM
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Pump is working. Fuse is good. Not sure if it would throw a code?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2018 | 09:50 PM
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Might could swap the 4x4 relays under the hood and see if it works.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2018 | 11:45 AM
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Normally HIGH vac engages the hublocks, LOW vac disengages. Sounds either electrical or vac related --- wires, grounds, solenoids, etc..............

Also, WHILE STATIONARY the teeth can "lock up" --- try drifting it 2-5mph.............
 
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Old Jan 13, 2018 | 12:49 PM
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If you manually locked the hubs and you still don't have 4wd you most likely have a problem with the transfer case. Unless you have a hub that is completely broken.

The vacuum system only locks the hub, so if you did that manually it wouldn't matter if the vacuum system was working at all.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2018 | 02:30 PM
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Check for codes. You will be surprised how many sensors give inputs.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2018 | 03:27 PM
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Would it throw a code for a bad shift motor?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2018 | 06:17 PM
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Shift motor or the gear encoder.

I'll post the testing once I have the computer back. Right now I am using
a backup that does not have access to the Ford Workshop PDFs.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2018 | 07:20 PM
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Well I found out it takes about 55 Hrs to image a 6TB hard drive over a USB2 link.

Sh here are the files for diagnosing the 4WD in the 2006.

I added some extra files that should also come in handy for
other things in regards to the 4WD system and axle.

Let me know if you need any other info.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2018 | 08:54 PM
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No codes on my SCT or torque pro. I guess I try to replace shift motor or take it to somebody with a better code reader?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2018 | 09:17 PM
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Don't just start throwing parts at it or it can and will get expensive.

Start at Pin Point test J3 on page 308-07A-41
That is in the first PDF in the group. You are going to need a DMM
to do the tests that don't require a scan tool.

That is the first place I would start looking.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 06:28 AM
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If no 4wd with manually locking the hubs, you have a mechanical problem.
You can take the lockers out without pulling the wheels. The seals may have allowed water to get in and they may need to be lubed up a bit.
DieseltechRon (rip) has some good videos on YouTube on the subject.
Good luck.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 10:18 AM
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No codes on my SCT or torque pro. I guess I try to replace shift motor or take it to somebody with a better code reader?
They're generally just basic (inferior). I have over 40 OEM and aftermarket code readers and waste more money on these than I can count.

In all likelihood you won't be happy with purchasing --- try finding someone with a FORD IDS / VCM or a Snap-On, the Pro Innova's aren't half bad either. I have the top of the line Autel and it's a little flaky in this area also (not recommended)
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 10:28 AM
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There is a Forscan app, $5, get an OBD2 WiFi adapter $25. Use your Ipad or iPhone.
It will find most codes. My sons F350 was having issues, codes showed transfer case related problems. Worked thru them, all good now.
 
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