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I agree, it will be interesting to see the buy in cost over the 3.3 and compare that to the cost of the 2.7, 3.5 and 5.0 options. Also, if it is offered on the xl models, or just the higher trim models.
 
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I also love the DEF Tank ->

DEF Tank Capacity:
5.6 gallons, 22.5 qts


I wonder how long it lasts ?
 
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My favorite part is that it's rated to tow:
Will be interesting how the market and price this option.
 
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Maybe you’re unaware but trailers actually come with brakes now.

I own 5 trailers of different configurations and sizes so I am well aware of towing. When a smaller truck has a heavy trailer the trailer tends to push the towing vehicle even with trailer brakes. If sway starts the lighter truck is pushed around more and can lead to a loss of control. If the trailer brakes fail can the truck safely stop it? IMO F150s are too light for heavy trailers, 11,400 is in F250 range. Towing responsibly is something not to be taken lightly. I have towed with too light a vehicle and improperly set up trucks and the experience can be down right scary.
 
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Originally Posted by KJ Smith
Wrong schedule.... unless they added sparkplugs to a diesel.
It's the right schedule, you just have to read closely. Spark plugs have (3.0 SC V6) or (3.0 SC V8) next to them. The timing belt service has (Td6) next to it, as does "Replace the fuel filter element".

They use one maintenance schedule for all engines in this particular vehicle.
 
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The part that the PowerStroke Hub got wrong I think has to be the oil capacity. There's no way that it's only 6.5 quarts of oil with filter, that just seems too low compared to the Ecodiesel being 8.5 and 10.5 quarts respectively (Jeep has 8.5, Ram is 10.5). Unless it is only 6.5 quarts (which will help in the long run with lower maintenance costs), it has to be a typo, it just seems low in comparison.
 
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I agree, it will be interesting to see the buy in cost over the 3.3 and compare that to the cost of the 2.7, 3.5 and 5.0 options. Also, if it is offered on the xl models, or just the higher trim models.


https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/08/...owing-payload/
 
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Old 01-08-2018, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by KJ Smith
So us 3.5 owners can lose 125hp and 30tq to drive a higher maintenance diesel.

I have never understood the thinking here.
The fuel mileage needs to be really good for this to make sense.

Add in the higher price of admission, and I agree for the most part.

It will destroy the EB MPG while towing no doubt, but how much time is spent towing....ESPECIALLY with a 1/2 ton??

IMHO, the biggest reason Ford chose the 3.0, like Ram, is in anticipation of tightening CAFE.....
 
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The Ford F-150 diesel will be the most fuel efficient full-size pickup | Fox News

The marketing chief thinks that the diesel will sell just 5 % of total F-series sales. I think that´s a wrong prediction. It will be more.
 
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The Ford F-150 diesel will be the most fuel efficient full-size pickup | Fox News

The marketing chief thinks that the diesel will sell just 5 % of total F-series sales. I think that´s a wrong prediction. It will be more.
Fleet buyers can get it in XL and XLT work-focused trims, while retail customers can choose from a selection of Lariat, King Ranch and Platinum SuperCrew models with 4x2 and 4x4 drivetrains.

Here's your answer as to why they expect only a 5% take rate plus a $4000 price increase over the base 2.7L ecoboost and $1600 over the 3.5L EB.

Ford is purposely limiting production. I'm sorry guys but I'm still not seeing the upside here at all.
 
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Ford is purposely limiting production. I'm sorry guys but I'm still not seeing the upside here at all.
Yep, I read that this morning and came to the same conclusion. This will likely price me out of the market for the next few years at least. I have yet to justify the extra $5K for a Lariat model, so another $9K for a Lariat diesel probably isn't smart for me at this point in my life.
 
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Not that I'm in the market for a new truck now anyway as I still have a few years of payments left on my '12, but with a $4000 dollar price jump to get the diesel, and only on Lariat and up; this excludes me also. I'm just kinda wondering how many people will opt for this engine? I read somewhere this morning at work that Ford only expects about 5% of F-150 buyers will opt for the diesel.
If I was buying a new one right now I'd get the 5.0. Right now I have the 3.7 and it's really not enough. On the steep hills where I live the transmission needs to a lot more shifting to keep it in the torque curve; and this kills my fuel economy.
 
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If I was buying a new one right now I'd get the 5.0. Right now I have the 3.7 and it's really not enough. On the steep hills where I live the transmission needs to a lot more shifting to keep it in the torque curve; and this kills my fuel economy.
All the engines available in the F-150 today are more powerful than your 3.7, except the base 3.3L. The 3.3L is very close in power to your 3.7, but it is in the newer lighter truck....so performance should still be better even if you chose a 3.3L.


If the timing was right, I'd consider the diesel option. However, I'm still 5 years away from a new vehicle, so I'll just see what is available in another 5 years.
 
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Yep, I read that this morning and came to the same conclusion. This will likely price me out of the market for the next few years at least. I have yet to justify the extra $5K for a Lariat model, so another $9K for a Lariat diesel probably isn't smart for me at this point in my life.
That might push more into the Ecodiesel market. It's available in all trims, however just not as capable in towing.

The one time I really want to get the F150 diesel and they make it more prohibitly expensive. Probably end up shooting themselves in the foot with this later. Though I wonder if this will he like the 10 speed and that was only behind the 3.5L EB and Raptor. Only initially offer it in limited numbers to ramp up production. Doubtful but still hopeful.
 
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It seems like Ford is dipping their toe in the water. They invested on engine improvements to get to a higher tow rating but have limited availability. I suspect that there production volume is limited at this time.

What meets Ford’s definition of a fleet customer?
 


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