92 F-150 Shut off going down the road
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Crawl underneath the truck and meter the wires at the tank with the key on.
Looks like for the front tank, the fuel pump wire colors are Red/Orange.
Rear tank looks to be Brown-White/Orange wires.
Meter with key on to see if 12V is present. Be mindful, 12v will only be present for a moment or two after key is turned as PCM will shut off fuel pump with no PIP signal.
Inspect PCM by removing it and taking the cover off - if the capacitors have bulged/swollen/leaked all over the board chances are it is dead. Judging by the amount of codes, I'm leaning towards PCM.
Looks like for the front tank, the fuel pump wire colors are Red/Orange.
Rear tank looks to be Brown-White/Orange wires.
Meter with key on to see if 12V is present. Be mindful, 12v will only be present for a moment or two after key is turned as PCM will shut off fuel pump with no PIP signal.
Inspect PCM by removing it and taking the cover off - if the capacitors have bulged/swollen/leaked all over the board chances are it is dead. Judging by the amount of codes, I'm leaning towards PCM.
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Crawl underneath the truck and meter the wires at the tank with the key on.
Looks like for the front tank, the fuel pump wire colors are Red/Orange.
Rear tank looks to be Brown-White/Orange wires.
Meter with key on to see if 12V is present. Be mindful, 12v will only be present for a moment or two after key is turned as PCM will shut off fuel pump with no PIP signal.
Inspect PCM by removing it and taking the cover off - if the capacitors have bulged/swollen/leaked all over the board chances are it is dead. Judging by the amount of codes, I'm leaning towards PCM.
Looks like for the front tank, the fuel pump wire colors are Red/Orange.
Rear tank looks to be Brown-White/Orange wires.
Meter with key on to see if 12V is present. Be mindful, 12v will only be present for a moment or two after key is turned as PCM will shut off fuel pump with no PIP signal.
Inspect PCM by removing it and taking the cover off - if the capacitors have bulged/swollen/leaked all over the board chances are it is dead. Judging by the amount of codes, I'm leaning towards PCM.
Went to fuel selector switch:
Red/Yellow - Power for 2 to 3 seconds then off until i try to crank
Front tank:
Red - Same thing as Red/Yellow
Dark Blue/Yellow - No power
(No sound of pump)
Rear tank that has supposable holes:
Brown/White - Same thing as the Red/Yellow when rear tank selected
Light Blue/Yellow - No Power
(Can hear the rear pump run)
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Be aware the fuel pump relay is energized for only 1-2 seconds when cycling the key from the Off to Run position. The computer is programmed to do this.
To keep the fuel pump relay energized jumper Pins 2 & 6 on the self test plug, then turn the key to the Run position. The relay will stay energized for troubleshooting purposes.
A photo from Subford:
The fuel pumps are interchangeable, but not the complete Fuel Delivery Modules (FDM).
To keep the fuel pump relay energized jumper Pins 2 & 6 on the self test plug, then turn the key to the Run position. The relay will stay energized for troubleshooting purposes.
A photo from Subford:
The fuel pumps are interchangeable, but not the complete Fuel Delivery Modules (FDM).
#22
The dark blue/yellow + light blue/yellow never gets any power at start of key on or while cranking motor.... But im getting power from the red/yellow which comes from the inertia.
So best way is to crawl up under the truck and find the yellow and red wire coming from the front tank. See if I get power from red to ground. If yes continue to testing power from orange to ground. If no power from orange to direct ground(frame rail)
Testing w/ Lighttester
Red/Yellow - Power for 2 to 3 seconds then off until i try to crank
Front tank:
Red - Same thing as Red/Yellow
Dark Blue/Yellow - No power
(No sound of pump)
Rear tank that has supposable holes:
Brown/White - Same thing as the Red/Yellow when rear tank selected
Light Blue/Yellow - No Power
(Can hear the rear pump run)
So best way is to crawl up under the truck and find the yellow and red wire coming from the front tank. See if I get power from red to ground. If yes continue to testing power from orange to ground. If no power from orange to direct ground(frame rail)
Testing w/ Lighttester
Red/Yellow - Power for 2 to 3 seconds then off until i try to crank
Front tank:
Red - Same thing as Red/Yellow
Dark Blue/Yellow - No power
(No sound of pump)
Rear tank that has supposable holes:
Brown/White - Same thing as the Red/Yellow when rear tank selected
Light Blue/Yellow - No Power
(Can hear the rear pump run)
#23
I assume what you mean when modules aren't interchangeable is meaning the entire fuel pump assembly. Yet you say the pumps are. Meaning I can take both assembly's out. Disassemble the pump(s) from the assembly and switch/reinstall.
Am I understanding that right?
Am I understanding that right?
Be aware the fuel pump relay is energized for only 1-2 seconds when cycling the key from the Off to Run position. The computer is programmed to do this.
To keep the fuel pump relay energized jumper Pins 2 & 6 on the self test plug, then turn the key to the Run position. The relay will stay energized for troubleshooting purposes.
A photo from Subford:
The fuel pumps are interchangeable, but not the complete Fuel Delivery Modules (FDM).
To keep the fuel pump relay energized jumper Pins 2 & 6 on the self test plug, then turn the key to the Run position. The relay will stay energized for troubleshooting purposes.
A photo from Subford:
The fuel pumps are interchangeable, but not the complete Fuel Delivery Modules (FDM).
#24
Highly doubt you lost the ground to the front tank, unless when selected the fuel level gauge pegs past full.
The Dark Blue/Yellow and Yellow/Light Blue wires are for the fuel gauge circuit. Power comes from Fuse 17 and is hot in Start and Run positions. The same fuse supplies power to most (if not all) of the instrument cluster gauges. That will not prevent the fuel pump from running.
The Dark Blue/Yellow and Yellow/Light Blue wires are for the fuel gauge circuit. Power comes from Fuse 17 and is hot in Start and Run positions. The same fuse supplies power to most (if not all) of the instrument cluster gauges. That will not prevent the fuel pump from running.
#25
A photo to help understand what the complete FDM looks like disassembled:
A diagram of the completed assembly:
courtesy of Subford
#26
Highly doubt you lost the ground to the front tank, unless when selected the fuel level gauge pegs past full.
The Dark Blue/Yellow and Yellow/Light Blue wires are for the fuel gauge circuit. Power comes from Fuse 17 and is hot in Start and Run positions. The same fuse supplies power to most (if not all) of the instrument cluster gauges. That will not prevent the fuel pump from running.
The Dark Blue/Yellow and Yellow/Light Blue wires are for the fuel gauge circuit. Power comes from Fuse 17 and is hot in Start and Run positions. The same fuse supplies power to most (if not all) of the instrument cluster gauges. That will not prevent the fuel pump from running.
#27
Yes, you should have power from the Fuse 17 through the instrument cluster to the fuel tank selector switch whenever the key is in the Start or Run positions. Based on your response "And the fuel gauge is at 1/2 full on front tank then drops to 0 when switched to back tank" means there is power.
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