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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 12:27 PM
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Unhappy Vacuum Pumped Seized!

Just had a not so fun time on new years eve. I was towing my 6.5k lb boat back from getting some gas (Those of you who go boating know why ). All of a sudden the truck screamed something fierce! Then no brake boost (Lucky the trailer brakes were still working as I was going downhill) Then noticed no power steering. Talk about a runaway train! As it finally got it stopped on on the side of the street, I smelled something burning and saw a little smoke coming out of the hood. You can imagine my thought process

Well long story short, I found a fried and broken fan belt, and the vacuum pump pulley wouldn't spin. Of course everyone was closed by that time, so I could get the part until the next morning. I've had vacuum pumps go bad on me before in that they don't produce a vacuum, but one seizing??? It looks like some sort of seal broke apart and I found a puddle of oil on the power steering pump cap. Now I'm, left wondering if there was some sign I missed? It seem to happen pretty suddenly, but I will admit I had some radio tunes turned up since they were playing some cool songs that time of night.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 01:04 PM
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What a bummer, I never had one seize on me but they would stop creating vac. Once my wife asked me why I was standing up, I said I was trying to stop this thing! lol Signs? The only thing I know of is to listen at idle for a chirping noise. It sounded like I had a bird under the hood. I changed the pump and all was good again.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 01:08 PM
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What a bummer, I never had one seize on me but they would stop creating vac. Once my wife asked me why I was standing up, I said I was trying to stop this thing! lol Signs? The only thing I know of is to listen at idle for a chirping noise. It sounded like I had a bird under the hood. I changed the pump and all was good again.
Now that you mention it I did hear a chirping sound a little while ago, but I of course mentally thought okay, I need a new fan belt or possibly a tensioner in the near future. The weird thing is I don't remember hearing it that night.

And no kidding about standing up. I was standing on the brakes trying to move the steering wheel! Felt like I could do one or the other. I don't think I could even move the wheel when she was stopped.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 01:23 PM
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Steering is no fun at all, had to back track 10 miles to a parts store, good workout. The chirping of course could have been a pulley bearing, its hard to pinpoint it down.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 02:56 PM
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Yikes! Glad you are okay. Consider chaging those idlers and tensioner while in there. Motorcrafts use good Japanese NTN bearings. Beware of the Torx fasteners...use 1/2" impact Torx bits to remove and they still may round out.

My vac punp is making a bit of noise here as of late. I am on the fence of grabbing a lifetime warranty Cardone from The Zone or new Motorcraft. Any thoughts guys?
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 03:07 PM
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Yikes! Glad you are okay. Consider chaging those idlers and tensioner while in there. Motorcrafts use good Japanese NTN bearings. Beware of the Torx fasteners...use 1/2" impact Torx bits to remove and they still may round out.

My vac punp is making a bit of noise here as of late. I am on the fence of grabbing a lifetime warranty Cardone from The Zone or new Motorcraft. Any thoughts guys?
Actually that's a good question, I got the Cardone from O'Reillys. I'm sure it's fine for now but I don't want it to seize up again. It does have the lifetime warranty but still .
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 10:53 PM
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I have churping noise!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 08:18 AM
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I just have a spare vac pump and belt in my tool box. Peace of mind.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 09:49 AM
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^^^^^ +1; spare belt at all times. Spare vac pump, tensioner, idlers, etc. in a tool bag for longer trips. And of course the AAA+ card.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 10:33 AM
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I have had idlers seize, never a pump, still travel ong distance with a belt, idlers, and pump/alternator. It can make or break your journey on a sunday afternoon in the middle of no where!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 02:06 PM
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+++++++lots & lots of other parts. To many to list.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 07:12 PM
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I have tons of extra parts. just had them replace the pump today. I need to find a PCM now. It's sad that you need to keep so many parts on hand.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 07:37 PM
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^^^^ Still cheaper than payments and insurance on a newer truck.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 07:39 PM
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^^^^ Still cheaper than payments and insurance on a newer truck.
I'm getting very close to new truck cost. My 97 is almost a 2017 now. most of the parts are new.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2018 | 09:00 PM
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I have had a couple freeze up,the one from the parts house will last about 30000 miles,I don't hear too good but wife said she heard something making a noise,both times I was a few miles from the house so it wasn't to bad.Drove home one time and was pulled home one time.
Not much fun.
 
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