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Is it possible to find a f250 or f350 with the 460

Im trying to find a bull nose f250 or f350 that is a driveable project, one that is mechanically sound, with the 460, 4x4, not a rust bucket, and a clean title. Is it possible to find one for less than 3 grand? Am I crazy?
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Unlikely to meet all those for under $3k since cash for clinkers, your tax dollars at work driving up the prices of older vehicles. 460 is an easy swap from a small block and a D60 is a bolt in deal for a leaf spring 250 or leaf spring 2wd 350. If you're not into body work look for a good body in the cab configuration you want as top priority.
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What about a different motor, like a 400 or something like that?
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400 was only made in the early 80's up to around 82 or 83.

Keep looking. You used to be able to find those trucks around since they are not good on fuel. But they are useful for driving in bad weather, so most are rusty.
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My end goal is to get a truck up to 400 horsepower, Im not sure which engines would be able to get there, thats why I said 460. I dont care about fuel consumption, i already have a 6.8 v10, Im used to **** poor mileage.
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Under three grand will be the problem I think. Here's an example.

https://medford.craigslist.org/cto/d...411482039.html

If it's spent it's life in the Medford Oregon area, it should be pretty rust free.

I think it's a little high, but 4WD's go for more around here.
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Back in September I bought a F350 crew cab with a 460 for $2200 but is only 2wd and needed some work before it was a daily driver. Good shape, minimal rust. Still needs some work here and there but its a DD already. Have around $3k into it including purchase price.
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Im trying to find a bull nose f250 or f350 that is a driveable project, one that is mechanically sound, with the 460, 4x4, not a rust bucket, and a clean title. Is it possible to find one for less than 3 grand? Am I crazy?
460's were not available in 1980/82 F150/350's, E250/350's only.

460 re-introduced in 1983 F250/350's.

1983 was also the first year that a M/T and 4WD was available with the 460.

351M/400: 1977/79 F100/350; 1978/82 Bronco; 1980/82 F150/350.

Largest V8 in 1980/83 F100: 302 2V
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To get your horsepower goals easily and reliably, the 460 is a good choice. Of course it will need some mild bolt-ons to get there.

The 460 2wd truck idea may be a good one. In other words, build your truck. A 2wd will most likely be in better shape. Then get a rusty 4x4 for parts to convert to 4x4.

Converting a f250 or f350 2wd to 4x4 is not as easy as it is on a f150, but it can be done. If you could find a rusty f350 that is 85.5up to 1998, it will have the desirable dana 60 front axle. If you wanted a mild lift with it also, you could get one of these shackle reversal kits from sky manufacturing(there may be other brands also) and that would be the easy way to convert a f250 or f350 to 4x4 and bolt it in the frame.

https://www.skysoffroaddesign.com/co...d-suspension-1

Then you could get the 4x4 trans and transfer case from the rusty 4x4 and swap that in.

That means your 4x4 donor would have to have the 460 so the 4x4 transmission will fit. The 2wd truck could be a 460, or another engine and you would already have most of the parts to swap the 460 over to the 2wd. If you end up using a later 460 4x4 truck that has a overdrive tranny and swap that in, you may end up liking this truck a lot. It will get half decent mileage with a overdrive transmission. But you will have a computer and some wiring involved if you use a E4OD.

And of course you could also swap the 460 into a f150 chassis and body.
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Im struggling with what I really want right now, I really want a big block, but another part of me really wants an old school diesel, but I know they are dogs. So then comes the question 4x4 or 2wd, which im not sure yet. And then I wonder if I should buy a dually or not. Descions descions... heres a truck I was thinking about...
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The old school 6.9 and 7.3's can be good engines. They are weak, I have one with no turbo and I like it. But I am patient with it also, and it's very reliable. You can get turbo kits for them, and it really wakes them up. I drove one with a turbo and it felt like it had two engines under the hood compared to mine.

And I like the great fuel mileage, even though diesel is higher cost. Mine is a f250 single cab 8ft bed, 4 inch lift, 35 inch tires, 4.10 gears. With the c6 it came with, I could never get over 12mpg. I swapped in a zf manual trans and can always get 15mpg now.

And if you have sources of clean oil, you can burn alternative fuels in it. I always thought if I had a source of clean used hydraulic fluid, I could burn 50% diesel, 50% hydraulic oil with no problem.
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I paid $3200 for mine. Rust free from Missouri, 136k, Supercab, XLT Lariat, 4x4, 460 and a C6. The transmission only went into 1st and 2nd but that turned out just to be a $20 modulator valve(gotta love those C6 trannys with no electronics).
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Interesting.. Had no idea these trucks were worth so much. Mine sits in the garage until the weather gets warmer and I can finish some body work and a leaking rear main seal. It stills runs great and I can drive it if I must get somewhere in really adverse weather.

I'm sorta the opposite- I'd rather trade my 460 and its 9mpg for a 351 HO any day if the fuel mileage difference was at least a fair bit in the right direction. But it is fun telling people you have a 460, and that your engine is larger than theirs. Till you realize theirs makes 150 more horsepower

I do see bullnoses quite frequently around here, quite a few 250's too. I can usually spot the 460's (seen plenty recently) because they're typically 250/350 longbed supercabs-- the exhaust is huge compared to the tiny 300's, and small block V8 exhaust size.
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But it is fun telling people you have a 460, and that your engine is larger than theirs. Till you realize theirs makes 150 more horsepower
Horsepower wins races, but it doesn't pull loads of firewood and pull loaded trailers.

My 7.3 non turbo diesel is slow, it has the same get up and go that the 351w 2bbl engine I had in my old f150 when both were empty. But put a trailer behind it with a tractor on it, the 351w struggled a lot more than the 7.3 does.
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Horsepower wins races, but it doesn't pull loads of firewood and pull loaded trailers.

My 7.3 non turbo diesel is slow, it has the same get up and go that the 351w 2bbl engine I had in my old f150 when both were empty. But put a trailer behind it with a tractor on it, the 351w struggled a lot more than the 7.3 does.
I already have a work truck, I want this truck specifically for fun, I want it to be a fun project.

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Interesting.. Had no idea these trucks were worth so much. Mine sits in the garage until the weather gets warmer and I can finish some body work and a leaking rear main seal. It stills runs great and I can drive it if I must get somewhere in really adverse weather.

I'm sorta the opposite- I'd rather trade my 460 and its 9mpg for a 351 HO any day if the fuel mileage difference was at least a fair bit in the right direction. But it is fun telling people you have a 460, and that your engine is larger than theirs. Till you realize theirs makes 150 more horsepower

I do see bullnoses quite frequently around here, quite a few 250's too. I can usually spot the 460's (seen plenty recently) because they're typically 250/350 longbed supercabs-- the exhaust is huge compared to the tiny 300's, and small block V8 exhaust size.
I want to build the 460 up, easier to get power from it than a 351, plus I really dont care about mileage. My v10 gets 9.27, so im used to it.
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