93,000 miles and #4 piston and rod are gone. Had bought a 3rd party extended warranty from a company called ENDURANCE. CRAP! They denied the claim due to the modified tires I am running. Want to hear what I was running? My FX4 came with crappy Pirelli Scorpion street tires. Size was 275/55/20. I mean really a 55 aspect ratio on an off road package? C'mon. So when they died I went to a Michelin 275/65/20. SO because I wasn't running factory size tires, i get to pay for my new engine out of pocket. Their contracts are so nit picky they could have denied the claim because of the aftermarket antenna I had on as well.
ANyone have any luck with FORD N.A. getting them to cover an engine, since so many of their blocks are failing?

 

As long as you flashed the PCM to compensate for the wheel diameter change (+6.4%), there shouldn't have been issue.

Even if you hadn't, there would have only been 6.4% fewer miles on the odometer after changing the tires.


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Aftermarket warranties are almost universally garbage (and almost all extended warranties are bad from a financial viewpoint), but I'm pretty sure they're still bound by the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. I don't see how that minor of a change in tire size could reasonably be blamed for a mechanical failure in the engine, so this is one of those times that it'd pay to talk to an attorney.

I doubt you'll get any help from Ford, as you're well beyond any factory warranty coverage--from what I could find, the '12 Powertrain Warranty was 5 years/60,000mi; you might be OK on time, but you've definitely blown through the mileage cap.

Also, I don't know what you mean by "so many of their blocks failing." That's certainly not a widespread problem on the Coyote.

 

After reading the 70 page thread on here about knocking and pinging, that leads to failures, I would say there IS a problem with the 5.0. I brought mine in 10,000 miles ago and asked what the knocking at idle was. They said it was a bad cylinder and my engine would fail. It sure wasn't a mystery to them, and they were right. I can see parts failing, rods, lifters, valves, but the BLOCK? I'm not a gear head, but what I can tell is that the cylinder gets out of round or 'warps' then of course that cylinder fails. I had a 2003 5.4 F150. Never had an engine problem. Much less FAILURE. I am just really bummed. Can't even wrap my head around buying another FORD. Why would i spend $50,000 on a truck that can't make 100,000 miles on the odometer.....ugh .

 

Yes, there was a problem with your engine, and it's certainly not the only one that has failed, but that doesn't mean the whole engine line is bad. There are roughly one million Coyotes in F-150s. Yes, there are going to be some bad engines in the lot, and you're more likely to hear about them on places like this where people come for help, but think about it--if they had even a 5% failure rate, that's 50,000 trucks with blown engines, and that's headline news.

Really, though, that's neither here nor there. I'd still recommend talking to an attorney about making the warranty company perform.

FWIW, several years ago, on a forum far, far away, one of the members had a block fail (IIRC, it threw a rod), and the aftermarket warranty company tried to deny his claim based on the fact that he had a CAI installed. They ended up paying to replace his mill; I don't recall if he had to talk to a lawyer or if the dealership pushed it for him, but at least it can be done.

However you choose to go, I wish you the best of luck.

 

Depends how the warranty is defined. Most likely it is not a full warranty. I am sure it is written as a limited warranty.

 

That's why I suggested consulting an attorney. If you're looking at a $10K bill to replace an engine, it's worth the time and money to make sure the warranty company can't weasel out of paying.

 

I agree with Sooner...for the cost of a new engine I'd let an attorney look at it and see if you have ground to stand on first. Then at least you tried.

As far as the failure goes...it was 11 and 12 model year trucks only. Supposedly there are a handful of early 13s with the issue as well, but I haven't seen much proof. And, among the 11 and 12 trucks, not all of those even had the issue. My buddy's 2011 5.0 has 225,000 and counting. Runs like a sewing machine.

Good luck.

 

I can’t wrap my head around someone stupid enough to buy a USED truck with unknown history, that had an obvious engine problem, then buy an aftermarket warranty and not read the details and then come here to complain about Ford quality and longevity.

Oh yeah, welcome to the forum...

 

Pretty much said it. if you heard a noise, then you shouldnt have bought it. and I never ever trust an aftermarket warranty. I never had an aftermarket warranty, but a friend of mine did, and the truck drank oil.....oil wasnt changed.....made me very wary.....so I have not had issues. I have found if it makes noise, or smokes....run away.

 

This is a little harsh but I don't disagree with the spirit of the posts.

My stepson is looking at 2011/12 F-150's because mine has been so incredibly reliable and enjoyable to own. These trucks happen to be in his price range and this could have been the OP's reason as well.

I told my stepson to run like hell from any 2011/12 F-150 unless he knows it's history intimately.

The issues with the 5.0's and the 3.5's may have only affected a few units as compared to the number on the road but who's really willing to risk it?

I told my stepson to go a tad older and get a 2009/10 with the 5.4L or wait for a 2013/14 when the prices come down.

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Mine was one of them.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post17214013

 

I think you guys misunderstood his post or perhaps I did, but I didn't read where he bought it with a problem. I read that he brought it in to a dealer 10,000 miles ago (so at 83k) and was told the the motor would fail. I don't think he ever mentioned the miles on it when it was purchased

 

I have a 2014 with the 5.0. It slipped piston sleeve and was tapping like hell. The service manager I deal with (Dave) knew exactly what it was and had it replaced in 2 days. I've put 100,000km on it since it was replaced and it runs like a top.