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My auto is still going with over 220k on it. I'm still on stock injectors with all the mods in my sig and I have flogged it.
I can't believe you're running stock injectors with all those mods. If you put a set of 160/80s in it you wouldn't recognize it.
 
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I can't believe you're running stock injectors with all those mods. If you put a set of 160/80s in it you wouldn't recognize it.
Plan is for 238/100 but money's tight.
 
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New plan, new question

What if I were to do the up pipes, wicked wheel turbo, Banks Elbow
and downpipe, 160/80 injectors, cups, monitor screen.... but no tuner?


I've surfed around here a lot and haven't yet seen anybody doing all the perf mods but no tuner.

All I have now is the 140v mod, K&N cone, 4" exhaust after downpipe, and fuel delivery improvements.

Would my tranny survive all those mods but no tune? I'd watch EGTs for a month or so before deciding on a tuner.
 
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Tunes are pretty much required when running non-stock injectors.
 
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OK then,
What if I were to do the up pipes, wicked wheel turbo, Banks Elbow
and downpipe, stock injectors, monitor screen.... and no tuner?


Keep in mind that I have the 140v mod, K&N cone, 4" exhaust after downpipe, and fuel delivery improvements.
 
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You have to have custom tuning to run single shot injectors in a 99-03 7.3 or it will run poorly.
 
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OK then,
What if I were to do the up pipes, wicked wheel turbo, Banks Elbow
and downpipe, stock injectors, monitor screen.... and no tuner?


Keep in mind that I have the 140v mod, K&N cone, 4" exhaust after downpipe, and fuel delivery improvements.
It'll run pretty much the way it does now. If that is what your budget allows, you would be doing it in the right order.
 
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I would skip the banks elbow it doesn't really do anything, the 4" won't make much of a difference either on a stock truck, and if you do decide to get a 4" downpipe there are several brands that are cheaper than Banks and do the same thing.
 
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Originally Posted by RenoHuskerDu
OK then,
What if I were to do the up pipes, wicked wheel turbo, Banks Elbow
and downpipe, stock injectors, monitor screen.... and no tuner?


Keep in mind that I have the 140v mod, K&N cone, 4" exhaust after downpipe, and fuel delivery improvements.
You seem hung up on the banks stuff. Can I ask why?
 
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I'm already running the 4" system. Stock exhausts come off my vehicles generally in the first two weeks of ownership, starting when I was 12 on our family car, a 62 Chevy. Whacked that sucker off just before the Y pipe. My dad was mad.

Having held the Banks elbow and the Ford elbow in my hands, it's clear that the 90° stocker with its useless butterfly (in Texas) is more restrictive. Gale's stuff may be spendy but it's also very high quality. If you remember that song on Dr Demento "I like Chinese" - well I don't.

Still hoping for a tuning guru to wade in here and validate my plan.

Thanks to the guy who said I'm doing things in the right order.
That's useful feedback.
 
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It'll run pretty much the way it does now. If that is what your budget allows, you would be doing it in the right order.
It's not so much of a budget question as it is wanting to go at this project incrementally, seeing how she runs, watching EGTs on the new monitor. Kinda like building a house from the foundation up, with injectors and tuning being the finishing touches. I've been wrenching since I was 13 but mostly gassers, so I know that I need advice from you oil guys to do this right.
 
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You seem hung up on the banks stuff. Can I ask why?
It's only the elbow and downpipe. I happen to know Gale personally.
 
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If you want to delete the EBPV then do it (I did - no regrets) but the stock exhaust on a 7.3L is adequate until you start moving a lot more air (i.e. bigger turbo). You are probably wasting your money on exhaust modifications, but it's your money so I will say no more on that topic.

The up-pipes and WW will be good upgrades, especially if the stock pipes are original and leaking.

I still don't know what you mean by monitor screen.
 
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If you want to delete the EBPV then do it (I did - no regrets) but the stock exhaust on a 7.3L is adequate until you start moving a lot more air (i.e. bigger turbo). You are probably wasting your money on exhaust modifications, but it's your money so I will say no more on that topic.

The up-pipes and WW will be good upgrades, especially if the stock pipes are original and leaking.

I still don't know what you mean by monitor screen.
That elbow is now the weakest point in both induction and exhaust, so it goes. The elbow and downpipe are already bought and delivered, so it's moot.

My original up pipes show soot and I hear hissing on WOT in fourth. I'm waiting on aftermarket pipes with no slip joint.

The monitor screen will sit by the A pillar and provide all the info Ford uses but does not display. I don't have that list with me. But my wrench has a tricked X running it. Downside is it maxes out at 25psi boost so I also plan a mechanical boost gauge.

Thanks for wading in.
 
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Old 12-03-2017, 08:24 AM
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I replaced my stock exhaust with MBRP 4" for 5 reasons.

1. The stock exhaust does have the bend in the downpipe that I did not feel was the best design, even if the flow was still good.
2. The stock exhaust looked like crap.
3. The MBRP was $250 shipped to my door.
4. I wanted a deeper sound out of the exhaust.
5. I wanted the exhaust tip to be nice, not something that I picked up at AutoZoo.

Mission accomplished...

As for your transmission living a long and fruitful life. I know you had it rebuilt, but none of us know what was used or the shop you used. Only you can estimate the life of the transmission. As I said earlier, it is not so much what you do to your truck as it is how you drive your truck.
 


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