Thanks Richter & Fordman for continuing the discussion. I admit I was a bit ignorant of just what the kingpins are, so I had to look it up.

Thanks guys for helping us with a van decision, even if what we ended up deciding was to not buy a van at this time. We needed something smaller/easier to drive as a second vehicle in the city. So we ended up with this (and therefore belong on a different section of the forum):

First actually. 1993. 87,000 miles. I got it from it’s second owner, who had it for 6 months / 1,000 miles (decided he didn’t need a 3rd vehicle) after buying it from the estate of the original owner. It’s not perfect, but sadly 1st/2nd gen ones are getting rare to find at least here in anything other than bad condition. So i jumped on this one when it came up with only a couple quick things, and a set of tires, needed. My brief time driving it so far, and I can see why Ford sold hundreds of thousands of these back in the day. Expansive glass & square corners make it surprisingly easy to drive in traffic.