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Old 11-12-2017, 02:01 PM
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Up grade time I think...suggestions please.

Ok as i am dealing with another issue (thread already created and narroed down to most likely bad IPR) I have decided to hit a few things under the hood as I am noticeing more soot in the engine bay reciently which leads me to think things are leaking there fore costing me power...thats bad....


SO....I am going to be getting the bellowed uppies soon (planing budget as I type this) so while i am under the hood with the bellowed uppies, what other items should I go ahead and hit? I know I will need 4 CAC boots, planing on hitting Clay at RR for them, along with any other items needed I think.

anyways while I am doing this part of the engine rebuild, are there any other items that I should hit? perhaps the Hpop lines?? ect?
 
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Old 11-12-2017, 02:56 PM
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The big question is how much do you want to spend? Pedestal, fuel bowl, passenger's side fuel line down the head are a few that come to mind. Those E99 up pipes are pricey on their own. Then do you want to delete your EBPV? You will have things opened up pretty good by then, do your plenums leak? You might want to check on that before disassembly.
 
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Definently pressure check your intake system and see if your plenums are leaking before tearing into everything.
 
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Yup as Mark mentioned those e99 up pipes are $$, and pointed out some good key components to look for.
Ill see if i can make the 99+ up pipes fit the e99 set up.
You could probably use the 99+ turbo pedestal, and the 99+ up pipes and some how make the down pipe reach the turbo outlet and maybe the spider to manifold boots can reach for the added height. Ill tty and see if i can help you out with this.
 
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:00 PM
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If there is one thing I am good at it is spending my own money. Although, I can be much more skilled at spending other peoples money too.

If your up-pipes truly are leaking, then you should replace them. Whether or not you change to a L99 pedestal and whatnot, but I have read on more than one occasion that the swap is not worth it unless you are in need of new parts anyway. There is no significant power gains by going to L99 setup.

Without knowing the history of your truck, if you are going to replace the 4 CAC tube boots, I would also recommend new boots for the plenums and inserts if they are available. The new T-clamps were a must for me when I replaced my boots because the old clamps had seen better days.

I would seriously consider new HPOP lines with fittings on both the HPOP and the heads as those seals can go bad too after years of service.

Check out the passenger side fuel line and take some preventive maintenance measures.

Fuel bowl rebuild is a good idea and pretty cheap to accomplish if you have the time.

Does your turbo need rebuild the turbo at all? If so you should look at the 360 bearing and perhaps a billet compressor wheel.

Check your EBPV on the pedestal while your in there, very common leak spot.

The list is endless really my friend.
 
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:33 PM
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Sounds like you have a E99, Clay has the bellowed up pipes cheaper than anyone...trust me I looked! And they're only about $60 less than the L99 bellowed and much cheaper than the International. Mine came in last week and look and feel very well made!
SPTurbo has a new billet wheel AND severe duty rebuild kit for less than $200. Hope this helps.

Riffraff Diesel Bellowed Up-pipe Kit for Ford 7.3L 94-Early 99
 
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Old 11-13-2017, 06:14 AM
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E99? You might want to look at this: [LINK]
 
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I’m beginning the long term planing and rebuilding or the engine, and seeing as the butt-ometer is detecting low boost values and more spot under the hood (and I dont think the original boots have ever been changed since new…so another reason to renew things under the hood, and if I’m there I might as well hit as much as I can afford as the truck is going to be put to work for a masonry company moving equipment and supplies.
 
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I would look very hard at switching to the late 99 with the high cost of early 99 up pipes. Have seen several good reviews of the dorman up pipes for the late 99 trucks. The cost difference would be a start to the parts needed for the change. I have a stock 99.5 pedestal you could have if you were close (needs gutted or rebuilt).
 
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Originally Posted by brandon_oma#692
I would look very hard at switching to the late 99 with the high cost of early 99 up pipes. Have seen several good reviews of the dorman up pipes for the late 99 trucks. The cost difference would be a start to the parts needed for the change. I have a stock 99.5 pedestal you could have if you were close (needs gutted or rebuilt).

Clay's bellowed E99 up pipes are only $60 more than the Bellowed for the L99. That's a lot cheaper than converting everything over. If the conversion came with substantial performance improvements maybe but everything I've read says there's not a big performance improvement by switching.


Riffraff Diesel Bellowed Up-pipe Kit for Ford 7.3L 94-Early 99

International Bellowed Stainless Up-pipe Kit 99.5-03
 
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:32 AM
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I am not concerned with "performance", except in the fact that things work and hold boost/exhaust as they are supposed to...other then that this is just more for restoreing lost capabilities and functionality. My truck is the E99 but if for some odd reason parts get changed to the L99 set up thats fine with me, wont bother me the least, I just have limited funds at the moment as I just started a new job (odd job type thing with a mansonry company) so I can't go hog wild yet, but I can if I play the cards right (and I guess with the help of the brother hood) upgrade and rebuild the areas of my truck that need the help at this time, which I think is the boost side of things like uppies and the air tubes around the turbo...maybe the turbo also....
 
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Originally Posted by Colorado350
Clay's bellowed E99 up pipes are only $60 more than the Bellowed for the L99. That's a lot cheaper than converting everything over. If the conversion came with substantial performance improvements maybe but everything I've read says there's not a big performance improvement by switching.


Riffraff Diesel Bellowed Up-pipe Kit for Ford 7.3L 94-Early 99

International Bellowed Stainless Up-pipe Kit 99.5-03
I was talking about the Dorman 679-005 Looks like they are about $190 I thought they were less. 172 at advance auto after $50 off. Many good things from Clay and great prices on innovative stuff but I do not see them as that much better.





Also with the early 99 you cannot drop in a gtp38r or kc38r correct? I am assuming that stock late 99+ parts should be becoming more available and cheaper. If someone locally was truly in need I would gladly give some stuff away just hate dealing with selling and shipping.

EDIT Wanted to add Clay is great and I have spent plenty of money with him (riffraff). Just not sure the best place for up pipes but only place I know of for the early 99 .

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I sense a case of future upgrade-itus and if that is the case you will be looking at late style drop in turbos or t4 in the future.

I am ASSUMING no one has any upgrades for the early 99. I would love to be wrong here.
 
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:04 AM
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right now I just want to make my sick truck better.....don't care how I do it as long as he gets better.....I know I am an odd guy I guess...but when your relying on your truck to make money.....anyways would the UVCH be a good thing to hit now or should I hold off?
 
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Unless you are having problems with the UVCH, you should leave it.
 


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