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Old 11-11-2017, 08:27 PM
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F150 or F250?

Trading in my 07 Expedition in January. The new truck will be a daily driver and will tow about 30 days out of the year. The trailer is a 26' Lance 2185 GVWR 6000 lbs with a 930 lb tongue weight. Looking at an 2018 CC F150 3.5EB with Max Tow. Alternatively looking at an F250 CC with the long bed for the 48G tank. Would like the better mileage of the F150 in every day driving and it's shorter. The F250 would have no payload issue and it has the 48g tank (yay). On the other hand, the mileage is not so good and it's loooonngg.

In either case I would only be using half it's tow rating, just the way I like it.

What way would you go?
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If you tow you trailer now with your Expedition, a new F-150 will be much, much better. I don’t think you need a SD to tow that trailer safely. I do recommend getting the longer wheelbase (so 6.5’ bed with the CC). With these lighter trucks, I worry about the longer trailers “wagging the dog”.
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Old 11-11-2017, 10:53 PM
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I have no doubts the F150 will be capable of doing it. Personally though I don't know if I would own another half ton truck. Not because of its towing capability but I just like the weight that comes with the 3/4 ton and knowing I have more truck than I will probably need. I hope the longer I have this truck it is able to make me change my mind.

The real downside of modern Diesel engines is all of the emissions. They just choke the engine and if not used like a truck they seem to have more issues than the previous ones.

That being said I do like how the 3.5 and its light weight combine to make it move along,even when towing my 4000lb travel trailer.
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Old 11-12-2017, 06:36 AM
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Me and my family all do farming, or construction. We're switching all our vehicles back to f150s.
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Old 11-12-2017, 07:35 AM
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Trading in my 07 Expedition in January. The new truck will be a daily driver and will tow about 30 days out of the year. The trailer is a 26' Lance 2185 GVWR 6000 lbs with a 930 lb tongue weight. Looking at an 2018 CC F150 3.5EB with Max Tow. Alternatively looking at an F250 CC with the long bed for the 48G tank. Would like the better mileage of the F150 in every day driving and it's shorter. The F250 would have no payload issue and it has the 48g tank (yay). On the other hand, the mileage is not so good and it's loooonngg.

In either case I would only be using half it's tow rating, just the way I like it.

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Go with the F150.

Sure, both vehicles will do everything you listed but, the overall enjoyment as well as cost would squarely fall in favor of the F150 especially when you`re not towing.
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Old 11-12-2017, 09:37 AM
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If it is interior space you're looking for, both F150 and F250, even F450, are all identical since they use the same aluminum cabin.

F150 can easily handle 8,000 pound trailers.. anything less than that, get the F150. Having driven the F250, it was much more difficult to park than the F150.
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I hate my F-150. Camper pushes it around. Haul anything in the bed it squats bad. Now put the camper on it, and try to haul enough in the bed for a family of 6, with Firewood and coolers and Bikes, and it is horrible. The Eco boost is good though.
My camper weighs near 8,000lbs loaded.
Edit: The numbers on my F-150 looked great on paper as far as weights and towing, but the truck doesn't like it!
I also call BS on parking, as my 06 ccsb super duty felt like it turned sharper. I felt it was easier to maneuver than my current f-150.
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I wasn't talking about the maneuvering, I was talking about the parking itself, it's so long and sticks out of parking spaces. I got a parking ticket for going over the 22 ft limit which I didn't know existed. It was a $220 fine.

In Washington, D.C., that will cost you $1,000.

https://dpw.dc.gov/sites/default/fil...tions_2601.pdf
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Old 11-12-2017, 10:12 AM
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Truth is, No Full size Pick up fits in any "city" parking. I live in the sticks, and my pick up doesn't fit in the lines of the WalMart.
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Old 11-12-2017, 10:27 AM
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At least my 6.5' F-150 will not get me a $220 parking ticket!
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Old 11-12-2017, 10:46 PM
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If you tow you trailer now with your Expedition, a new F-150 will be much, much better. I don’t think you need a SD to tow that trailer safely. I do recommend getting the longer wheelbase (so 6.5’ bed with the CC). With these lighter trucks, I worry about the longer trailers “wagging the dog”.


I used to tow my <4,500 lb 7x14 cargo trailer with an '09 Expedition. Onug has a point about the 'tail wagging the dog', but both GABAR and I suggest the F150. I had to make the exact same choice as you a couple of months ago and am very pleased with the results and the differences in towing over the Expedition.


In fact, just got back from a 600 mile round trip weekend. Mileage was about 20% better than the Expedition. Here is a shot of it in the middle of the trip back.
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Does that truck have Max Tow? My tongue weight is 930 lbs.
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The swb F250 crew cab is only 250 inches. Or 20.83 feet.

F150 Supercrew with 6.5 ft bed is 243.7 inches or 20.30 feet.

You wouldn't get a ticket with the short bed F250.

The long wheelbase F250 is 266.2 inches or 22.18 feet.
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The long wheelbase F250 is 266.2 inches or 22.18 feet.
Correct. That's why I got the ticket. That's why I chose the F150 LWB over the F250 LWB. What really irked me was that the interior space is absolutely identical between the two. Turning radius? The F250 was way worse than the F150. Both were LWB's.
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:23 AM
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You made me go get the sticker and look!


I have the trailer tow package, pro trailer backup assist, a class IV trailer hitch, the integrated trailer brake controller and 7000# GVWR package (whatever the heck THAT is!).


I do not see a "Max Tow Package"


Comment and suggestion. My Expedition used to drag the rear end a lot, like 3 inches or more. You can see what my new truck is doing - level. You might look into using a good quality weight distributing hitch.


The Ford website shows:


https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/..._F150_Sep7.pdf


At tongue weights in excess of 500 lbs they do say you must use a WDH. They also say that the tongue limit is 1,220 for 53A, B, and C.


For a little more discussion on the subject, you might want to read this:


https://www.f150forum.com/f118/trail...bumper-351048/


In other words, *I* think you will be just fine if you used to tow this trailer with an Expedition with the possible exception that you probably should add a WDH.


YMMV
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