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!966 Ford F-250 Camper Special Value?

I own a 1966 Ford F-250 Camper Special with the custom cab package. it has a big block 352 FE with a 4 speed manual. Dana 60 with 4.10s in the back. it is light blue with some petina but nothing too bad. it was assembled in the san jose california plant and was in california for around 40 years of its life so it has minimal rust. It is all original except for the wheels and tires, it has American Racing AR23 16 inchs on 235/75 r16 or something like that. it has the optional mega tow mirrors which are like the normal tow mirrors from 66 but bigger and has an extra support beam. it has a straight body and is compleaty set up for towing. its payload is around 6000 pounds and it can tow 7500 pounds. its the lond bed style side. when i purchased it the DMV valued it at around 13 grand, but that was in early February of this year. im wondering what you guys think its value is. thanks
 
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Originally Posted by gglover24
I own a 1966 Ford F250 Camper Special with the Custom Cab package. It has a 352 with a 4 speed manual, Dana 60 with 4.10s in the back. It is light blue with some patina but nothing too bad. It was assembled in the San Jose California plant and was in California for around 40 years of its life, so it has minimal rust.

It is all original except for the wheels and tires, it has American Racing AR23 16" on 235/75 R16 or something like that. It has the optional mega tow mirrors which are like the normal tow mirrors from 66 but bigger and has an extra support beam. It has a straight body and is completely set up for towing. Its payload is around 6000 pounds and it can tow 7500 lbs. It's the long bed Styleside.

When I purchased it, the DMV valued it at around 13 grand, but that was in early February of this year. I'm wondering what you guys think its value is. Thanks
The outside mirrors with the 3rd "steady rest" arm were introduced in 1967.

The only way a DMV would value a vehicle is...for sales tax purposes.

For many years here in CA, if you buy a used vehicle without a bill of sale stating what it sold for, DMV looks in a book for what similar vehicles are worth, then charges sales tax on this price.

It's impossible to value a truck without pictures and even then, you'll get multiple different prices. These trucks are not rare, are only worth what people are willing to pay for them.
 
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Wow, $13,000!? Is that how they calculate reg. fees? I'm sure it's different in every state, but here in AZ they take the original value of the vehicle and depreciate it by about 15% per year. Eventually, an older vehicle will zero out and at that point they have a minimum rate for reg. purposes. According to the state of AZ, my truck's worth less than nothing and taxes are (I think) about $9/yr.
Wondering how they value a vehicle that originally sold for about 2k at $13,000. Please don't tell me they use NADA. Because of that, every bonehead thinks their old truck is worth a fortune.
 
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The outside mirrors with the 3rd "steady rest" arm were introduced in 1967.

The only way a DMV would value a vehicle is...for sales tax purposes.


For many years here in CA, if you buy a used vehicle without a bill of sale stating what it sold for, DMV looks in a book for what similar vehicles are worth, then charges sales tax on this price.

It's impossible to value a truck without pictures and even then, you'll get multiple different prices. These trucks are not rare, are only worth what people are willing to pay for them.
its not rare? Haha tell me the last time you saw a 66 f250 roll down the road. And I also don't know what to say about the mirrors, it has them and they are stock
 
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If you bought the truck in February, how can you be sure the mirrors - or anything else on the truck is stock?
Look around this site, you'll see several hundred '66 f-250's here, and this is a small sampling. My brother has one to haul his yard waste and such with. they made millions of them, and hundreds of thousands are still around. Hence ND's statement that they're not rare.
 
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There are parts #'s on everything and all the numbers match up with my online research and the 66 shop manuals 1-4
 
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My 66 camper special has the mirrors with the third attaching point to brace the arms. They are original, they are even shown in the 66 brochure on the camper special trucks and the truck that has a utility style bed.
 
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For the mirrors, I believe it's possible for both sides of the discussion to be correct. The mirrors may very well be a 1967 item and they very well may have come on the 1966 truck from the dealer and possibly the factory. Cross-over year on parts does happen.

One thing I don't believe is the payload being 6,000lbs. It's likely closer to 3,000.
 
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I guess it depends on your definition of rare. The 1971 Trans Am that I own is one of 885 4-speed cars that were built. I call that fairly rare from the factory.

My 1966 F250 4x4 trucks are each one of 3,559 Stylesides that they made.

A 1966 F250 2x4 Styleside Pickup - they would have made 58,489 of them.

Compare that with 1966 F100 2x4 Styleside Pickup that records show they made 224,497.

How many are left is anyone's guess.

Do your mirrors look like this?



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Originally Posted by gglover24
It's not rare?

Haha tell me the last time you saw a 66 F250 roll down the road.
Yesterday! While cruising thru Ventura...within three blocks, I spotted a 1965 F250 Styleside and a 1966 F100 Styleside. Both looked pretty much original.

And rare does not equate to value.

If the mirrors are the type that Chad alluded to (see lower parts catalog pic below), they are correct...I had forgotten about them.

 
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Yesterday! While cruising thru Ventura...within three blocks, I spotted a 1965 F250 Styleside and a 1966 F100 Styleside. Both looked pretty much original.

And rare does not equate to value.

If the mirrors are the type that Chad alluded to (see lower parts catalog pic below), they are correct...I had forgotten about them.

I believe that the package and options my truck has is one of the rarer ones. and also you didnt see a 66 f250 even though you saw an f100 and a 65 f250.
 
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Looks like a person could get two Western (Jr) mirrors installed for $25 extra. At least at this dealership where my truck came from in the big town of Selah.

Sales tax on $4,095.45 these days here would be about $410 compared to the $172 back then.



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Originally Posted by gglover24
I believe that the package and options my truck has is one of the rarer ones. and also you didnt see a 66 f250 even though you saw an f100 and a 65 f250.
Mine has the Deluxe Camper Special package and has the Ranger package (bucket seats) also with factory installed optional console and automatic transmission with gold carpet and custom factory gold paint (non-truck primary color) and I paid $1,825 for mine. Running condition, nothing but some surface rust. I got 2 complete engines and extra wheels. Purchased from the original owner. It's a 1966 F250.

One data point anyway. With these options it is likely one-of-one.

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Originally Posted by gglover24
I believe that the package and options my truck has is one of the rarer ones. and also you didn't see a 66 F250 even though you saw an F100 and a 65 F250.
FoMoCo assembled more 1966 F250 2WD Stylesides (58,489) than 1965 F250 2WD & 4WD Stylesides combined (42,044).
 
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Originally Posted by gglover24
There are parts #'s on everything and all the numbers match up with my online research and the 66 shop manuals 1-4
There are no part numbers marked on any parts after 1956!

If numbers are present, they are either ID engineering or casting numbers (when applicable).

Without an apropos Ford Master Cross Reference Catalog to cross ID engineering numbers to part numbers, there's no way to know if the numbers are correct or not.

Casting numbers are foundry marks, cannot be cross referenced to Ford part numbers.

I've been looking up ID engineering and part numbers for these trucks in Ford catalogs since they were brand new, so I ain't just a whistlin' Dixie.
 


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