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1980 F100 300 3spd column to T18 / T19 swap idea

 
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Rembrant, you lucked out! Attached is a picture of the 3spd transmission's cable installed and held below is the pink colored T18's cable.



Fuzzface2, from BorgWarner T-18 Transmission Specs & Ratios, "Fluid Type/Spec: 50W motor oil, 80W-90 gear oil, non-hypoid, low sulfur." Multiple posts list 50W as delivering superior shifting as well. The donor truck's speedometer cable was cut during trans removal. If only! A new one is on order at the local NAPA, at least.
 
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For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure I've heard that 50W oil is no longer the same designation as 80W90 gear oil -- also that newer motor oils contain additives that will make it foam when put into a transmission.
I would recommend using 80W90. GL4 if you can.
 
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can0fspam, that is a good point - 50W is not designated gear oil. Here is some information about the 50W I purchased:

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I would check what temp that W50 is rated for.
I bet it is for winter temps and not summer.
There was a post a few months back of a hard shifting trany when it was cold. Once it run for a bit and warmed up it shifted fine.
I think he went with a lighter weight oil and it shifted fine but was going to go back to the W90 when it warmed up.
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I would not use any modern engine oil in a transmission. The additives make them foam and do other weird things -- which engine oil never used to do, back when Ford applied the 50W designation to these transmissions.
I'm pretty sure Ford even officially changed away from the 50W designation retroactively, after motor oil started changing.

I know you've already bought the oil -- but I would definitely go for a GL-4 80w90 if it was my transmission.
 
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FuzzFace2 & can0fspam, points taken. How about Lucas Oil 50 WT Transmission oil?

https://lucasoil.com/products/transm...0-wt-trans-oil
 
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FuzzFace2 & can0fspam, points taken. How about Lucas Oil 50 WT Transmission oil?

https://lucasoil.com/products/transm...0-wt-trans-oil
I would use that over the motor oil in my trany.
I will have to see how mine shifts but from what I remember it was not bad and we don't get that cold down here and if so it is not for long.
Only thing I don't like is it comes in a gal jug & larger.
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More for later, then!
 
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Wanted to thank all involved for the advice along the way. Since I use the truck for business (lawn and garden equip repair), and since business has been very busy, it is still a 3 speed ... here's looking forward to letting you all know how the swap goes
 
 
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