I agree with a lot of what you said. If I was a construction contractor(which I was in the past), I would be driving a long bed stock height pick up, with step bars running all the way to the rear tires, or a van. I would also have more concern with fuel mileage, tire mileage and suspension wear. But since my daily commute is 9 miles one way, I don't give a $#\+. I still have no problem running to the Home Depot and picking up a load of lumber and/or plywood for home projects or side jobs. Maybe if I was 5' 4" it would be hard, but I'm 6' 4", so it makes some things easier. My step bars are about the same height as my door seals were stock. So considering I didn't have step bars, it's no different.

It doesn't take a mechanical engineer to know that a higher center of gravity makes a vehicle more top heavy. I'm not disputing that. If you lift, then run stock wheels, it's going to be more top heavy. Better than stock coil springs and shocks can improve this, and can actually make it ride better, with less lean in the turns. But if you space your wheels out with offset and a wider wheel, you counter act that higher center of gravity.

Here an explorer with stock wheels

Here's an explorer with wheel spacers, no different than offset on wheels

I don't need to go to school for 4 years to understand this. Surely to god there are others out there that understand this and agree.

 

I absolutely agree. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that. If you've ever put wider wheels on then you know this from experience because you can actually feel it

 

Can you please elaborate on how 17's have more clearance? I'll agree with the front locker, if it's air/electric. I wouldn't have a full time front locker on a vehicle I had to drive on the street. That's personal preference.

These trucks are long, and the longer the vehicle, the more purpose a lift serves off road.

You guys also need to remember, the 17's are substantially taller than the older generation. I guess they don't tow as well.

 

The frame sits higher off the ground. I have a reg cab dually I'm about to pick up and the truck sits pretty high. I would argue about not towing better. The new trucks have a lower center of gravity than the 1st gens.

 

Wt.... the size of the wheel has nothing to do with it. It's tire size. Now, the 17" wheels did come with the smallest tires, which puts your frame closer to the ground.

The 2017's not towing as well was sarcasm.

 

I never realized how much money adds up when you get a lift, wheels and tires wow

 

Your right, it does. I couldn't imagine spending 50 or 60k on a truck then dropping another 4-6k on it. I'm right at 41k invested in my truck. And in my opinion, I like it better than a stock 60k truck. Of course, I like vinyl seats, rubber floors, simple climate control and no fancy infotainment centers. I also plain on keeping the truck a long long time. Doesn't make sense to invest the money and trade it in 3-4 years.

 

To the Original Poster......did you decide on which lift to go with?

 

I have the 6” pro comp it rides great. 37” tires

 

I like that, S Cobb! Looks good

 

Considering that a 2017 is made of aluminum and the farme and drivetrain is so beefy, I believe a large majority of weight is below the frame. My last SD was a 2001. My current 17 has a whole lot more clearance under the truck. What all this means I have no idea however lifting a new AlumaDuty should be much more stable than lifting an older model. More weight down low and less up top

 

I agree with everything you said. The 17's really didn't lose any weight, the body itself is a little bigger(or at least appears to be) and any weight saved was applied in other areas, mostly down low.

But I do have to ask what this has to do with my quote?

 

Absolutely nothing! I don't know why I quoted you and I apologize
I was at work (loud and hot) and using my phone. Sorry

 

No problem, was just a little confused.