2017 F250 - what does the trailer tow package add?
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2017 F250 - what does the trailer tow package add?
I see on the Ford website, that the tow package upgrades the axles and increases the GCWR to 25.7K lbs. In real-ish world numbers how does this affect payload?
Several Lariats (ultimate package), I've seen, have approximately 2100 pounds of available payload. None of these have had the tow package. How big of a bump would I see from the tow package? 500 lbs? 1000 lbs?
Several Lariats (ultimate package), I've seen, have approximately 2100 pounds of available payload. None of these have had the tow package. How big of a bump would I see from the tow package? 500 lbs? 1000 lbs?
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The 250 is limited by being a class 2 truck. So, it's stuck at 10k GVWR and a matching de-rated payload despite it's physical capabilities. The HD Tow package for the 250 upgrades the truck to the point that it's a single leaf spring away from a SRW 350 6.7. It's essentially the same truck but de-rated on paper to fit a different market segment.
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Thanks guys. I don't really understand how you can increase tow capacity w/out increasing payload. The point about being "one leaf spring" away from a 350 makes sense.
Based on the point about being derated to meet a market segment, it sounds like the payload sticker will never really show a 250's true capability.
Based on the point about being derated to meet a market segment, it sounds like the payload sticker will never really show a 250's true capability.
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Thanks guys. I don't really understand how you can increase tow capacity w/out increasing payload. The point about being "one leaf spring" away from a 350 makes sense.
Based on the point about being derated to meet a market segment, it sounds like the payload sticker will never really show a 250's true capability.
Based on the point about being derated to meet a market segment, it sounds like the payload sticker will never really show a 250's true capability.
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Yep, 10k is the max on a 250. A lot of SRW 350 buyers also get confused by the build and price website. It lists the 10k and 11.4k de-rate packages but makes no mention of the 11.5k standard GVWR. So, many mistakenly order the 10k or 11.4k thinking those are what's available and that they need to pick one or the other.
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test drive a SRW 350 back to back against a 250. The ride quality is the same. I would still go 350 for a DD if you're buying one anyways.
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Big advantages for F350 over F250 are as follows:
1. better rear axle,
2. upgraded tranny (if buying 6.2 V8 gasser, you get the diesel tranny with the 350)
3. More payload capacity -- my biggest reason since considering a 5th wheeler trailer
4. upgraded brakes.
5 ??? anything else???
6. Same drive-ability when tested back to back to back by me.
Downsides: well, there all hellishly tall.
--Brian
1. better rear axle,
2. upgraded tranny (if buying 6.2 V8 gasser, you get the diesel tranny with the 350)
3. More payload capacity -- my biggest reason since considering a 5th wheeler trailer
4. upgraded brakes.
5 ??? anything else???
6. Same drive-ability when tested back to back to back by me.
Downsides: well, there all hellishly tall.
--Brian
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Big advantages for F350 over F250 are as follows:
1. better rear axle,
2. upgraded tranny (if buying 6.2 V8 gasser, you get the diesel tranny with the 350)
3. More payload capacity -- my biggest reason since considering a 5th wheeler trailer
4. upgraded brakes.
5 ??? anything else???
6. Same drive-ability when tested back to back to back by me.
Downsides: well, there all hellishly tall.
--Brian
1. better rear axle,
2. upgraded tranny (if buying 6.2 V8 gasser, you get the diesel tranny with the 350)
3. More payload capacity -- my biggest reason since considering a 5th wheeler trailer
4. upgraded brakes.
5 ??? anything else???
6. Same drive-ability when tested back to back to back by me.
Downsides: well, there all hellishly tall.
--Brian
#14
In our part of the world an F350 is considered a commercial vehicle and taxed at the regular rate, regardless of the price. An F250 over $55,000 has a luxury surtax added at rate of 1 percent extra per thousand to a maximum of an additional 3 percent. You don't see as many 250's on the lots here for that reason.
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All depends what you are towing and where you are towing it. I have had a 2017 F150, SCSB, 3.5TT, Max Tow. The F150 has only 5 cross members. I towed an 8500# TT over mountain passes. The roads here in the PNW can be a hassle. The F150 had porpusing and sway, especially in high winds. I had the correct options and turned on and still leaned and swayed good. Now driving an F250, 2020 7.3L, 3.55 gears, SCSB. The Superduties come with 10 cross members for stability and stifness. My wife even said today while driving home with the trailer that could not even tell the trailer was there behind us and the truck was not laboring at all. If you drive an F150 with 10,000# attached and down the California Central Valley (straight and flat), then it will do good for you. Anywhere else would recommend a Superduty for anything over 7,000#.
Edit: Sorry, wrong thread. Thought was in a different towing thread.
Edit: Sorry, wrong thread. Thought was in a different towing thread.
Last edited by John Lange; 06-22-2020 at 01:02 AM. Reason: Wrong thread