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Old Sep 3, 2017 | 05:18 PM
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About the Cody Test...

I have an engine with a long start issue 6 seconds to fire. Fires in less than two with an off/on. Naturally the Cody test comes to mind as a first. The oil reservoir seems to remain full. I got all hooked up with a quick disconnect air fitting to the hole in the head and hooked it up with 100 PSI. Closed all the garage doors, turned off the radio to make it as quiet as I could. Got the air leaks down to where they're inaudible. There is no gurgling. If there is gurgling how loud should it be? And it appears as though the oil level has not gone down, I can still see it right there in the plug hole when I pull the fitting back out. Do I need a stethoscope to hear a leak if there is one?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2017 | 06:21 PM
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If there's a leak, you should hear it without a stethoscope.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2017 | 07:06 PM
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OK, thanks.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2017 | 08:30 PM
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Yea, about the Cody test. It all sounds well and good until your niece makes you work on a 2003 6 leaker where some engineer decided it was a good idea to bury the IPR and ICP sensor back underneath the turbo.

Takes a special socket and some southern engineering to make something to pressure test from the IPR, as the ICP sensor is buried even further back in the no go zone.

Sorry. I'm just bitter about some of the stupid engineering on the 6.0 after having to work on the nieces truck.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 06:40 AM
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Yea, about the Cody test. It all sounds well and good until your niece makes you work on a 2003 6 leaker where some engineer decided it was a good idea to bury the IPR and ICP sensor back underneath the turbo.

Takes a special socket and some southern engineering to make something to pressure test from the IPR, as the ICP sensor is buried even further back in the no go zone.

Sorry. I'm just bitter about some of the stupid engineering on the 6.0 after having to work on the nieces truck.
I know not how the 6.0 is configured but I got an ORB-3/8" NPT adapter at my local hydraulics shop and screwed an air quick disconnect fitting into it. I removed the HPO fitting from the head and screwed my fitting assembly into it then attached the air hose to it. Then I could open the gate valve on my compressor and charge 'er up good with 100 PSI, no mess, no fuss, just a noisy air leak I had to quiet so I could listen in. The driver's side fitting was easy to get at but the passenger's side made up for it.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 08:05 PM
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know not how the 6.0 is configured...

On the 2003 6.0, they decided to place the ICP buried way back underneath the up pipes and turbo so you can't actually reach it unless you're a black belt in yoga. They realized their mistake somewhere in the 04 model year an dput it back on the head.

I don't think you can physically get to the ICP sensor on the 03 6 leaker without pulling the turbo.

Of course you have to pull the turbo, intake manifold, oil and fuel filter housing, etc. to change the HPOP on the 6.0 too. The 7.3 is so much easier to work on.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by F350-6
On the 2003 6.0, they decided to place the ICP buried way back underneath the up pipes and turbo so you can't actually reach it unless you're a black belt in yoga. They realized their mistake somewhere in the 04 model year an dput it back on the head.

I don't think you can physically get to the ICP sensor on the 03 6 leaker without pulling the turbo.

Of course you have to pull the turbo, intake manifold, oil and fuel filter housing, etc. to change the HPOP on the 6.0 too. The 7.3 is so much easier to work on.
FYI, if you have longer slightly skinnier forearms like me early build ICP under the turbo is a snap from below

Could have left the intake and oil/fuel filter in place as well, but that way next time when she calls for an HPOP you will save yourself some time

Sorry, couldn't resist. I know about as much as the 7.3 as you the 6.0 and will probably have to meander over here at some point with an issue. Seems the farmer I part time for who owns several 7.3's and 6.0's likes my work and cheaper labor rate.
It's all good, we all still drive real trucks here!
 
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 07:09 PM
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FYI, if you have longer slightly skinnier forearms like me early build ICP under the turbo is a snap from below

Could have left the intake and oil/fuel filter in place as well, but that way next time when she calls for an HPOP you will save yourself some time
03 intake crosses over the HPOP cover. Not sure how to leave it in place without a lot of cussing and possibly not being able to get it out. The oil/fuel cansiter was a result of the intake manifold removal. But she decided to do an EGR delete since we were in that far, so removing the manifold is something we kind of needed to do.
 
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I have a question about the Cody test. Should the system HOLD air pressure, as in turning off the air valve and the system keeps the same pressure?

Or does it require makeup air and we're just looking for bigger leaks?
 
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Old Sep 8, 2017 | 07:18 AM
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Cody did chime in and say that we should be able to hear a leak gurgling in there, I heard none. I also know that my air hose has very slow leaks in it that are inaudible so just closing off the hose and letting it sit doesn't work. I did leave the whole tank hooked up for a couple of hours and the compressor had not lost enough pressure to kick on so I figured I was good, then when I pulled my fitting back out of the head the oil level was still right there to the edge. If it was leaking in there I figure that the oil level would have dropped.
 
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No audible gurgling after a minute of 100+ PSI, look elsewhere for a problem. Maybe remove the fuel filter cap too and see if it's back-filling.
 
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