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2020 Bronco Discussion for the upcoming 2020 Ford Bronco!

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The first sleek protype 2 25.00%
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:44 PM
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Pulling back, it's good to see relative kids showing some passion about the historic value of the Bronco, despite its presence being pretty short compared to the Jeep, for example. And pretty inconsistent morphing from the little '66 version to the big '78.

Most Wranglers I see in my relatively affluent area are driven by high school kids (mostly girls) or middle-age crisis men and women who "wear" them instead of using them off road. Totally illogical vehicle for what they need, but they buy Jeeps anyway.

May we all get a Bronco from Ford that makes us want to buy one. In the long term, I care less about how a vehicle looks than how well it performs and how long it lasts. Guess we'll know more in a year and a half or so...
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Someone please explain to me why the new Bronco can't be retro styled? Common sense and good business practice says that it will be. Look at the Mustang. Ford brought that back from the dead and it is a HUGE success. Right now Ford has the F150, Expedition, Explorer, Edge, all modern styling. Why not another retro looking vehicle? And if its going to compete with the Wrangler it has to be a serious off-roader. My guess, the new Bronco will be totally unique and a game changer like the Raptor. At least let me dream.
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I agree FogCitySurfer. (cool icon btw) I believe you represent the majority. I see absolutely no sense at all in Ďbringing back the Bronco and giving us another 4-door bland suv. And not only has Ford seemed to do well with the 'retro'-Stang', take a look at the Camaro, and look at Dodge with the Challenger and Charger. They look cool and as far as the Camaro and Mustang, they run great on the track.
Also, check this out. Even Fiat-Chyrsler/Jeep acknowledge that it is important to respect the heritage.

Jeep Wrangler 2018 Designer Interview - Mark Allen Explains JL Redesign
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Old 11-29-2017, 04:13 PM
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I'm fine with retro styling, but what does a classic Bronco look like?

The '66 original, the '78 full size dentside, the '80 box, the '87 aero?

I can look at a Jeep from WWII and see the resemblance to the current Wrangler. But put the 4 Broncos I mention above next to one another and tell me what styling cues are common to them besides a relatively short wheelbase, 2 doors, and some part of the top that comes off... I don't think we'll get a really short wheelbase for safety/stability purposes. Doubt we'll get solid axles but we shall see...

I've been a fan of pony cars since the '64 Mustang was introduced on my 12th birthday and agree there are *some* similar styling cues on the new ones but the Challenger looks more like an old 'Cuda, and the Mustang and Camaro are definitely new cars with a few nods to the old design. (I know the GM designer who did the Camaro dashboard with the triple humps to mimic the oldie.) But the Charger is currently a 4 door cop car that has nothing to do with the '68 coke bottle 2 door classic.

Still waiting for some spy pics or advance word...if they get it right, I'm likely a buyer

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As I indicated in a previous post, I don't mind whether Ford would take cues from the 66 to 77 Bronco or the 78 through 96. I don't know what an 80 box is or 87 aero.
I see where you are coming from on the Charger. I still feel it has a retro vibe, but not to an old Charger. I believe Dodge really took a cue from the old Challenger. I think the old Challenger wasn't that far off some of the Baracudas. Eye of the beholder.
But I can definitely see some of the early (68 - 69 ish) Mustang and early Camaro in today's counter parts. And, I like them too.
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It's all good but the new Charger has no direct retro vibe I can see aside from a bit of coke bottle curve.

The 78-79 Bronco had the look of the 73-79 dentside pickups--I had a 78 F100 that I bought new. In 80, they changed the body completely to slab sides, and 87-96 got more aero looking. Check out some Internet photos when you have time.

Old Challenger and Cuda were very similar but Challenger had a big outward crease on the side beltline sculpting (that I disliked) and the old Cuda and current Challenger have smooth sides with a gentle coke bottle crease which I prefer. Definitely the best retro vibe IMO; I always liked Mopar performance cars back in the day. The 70+ Cuda was based on a shortened B Body platform so it was wider to fit the big engines, and the current Challenger has that same wide and chunky look. New Mustangs are pretty cool but have swollen front ends to meet the pedestrian crash requirements (air space between hood and top of engine). Old pony cars had long, low hoods.

I don't mind the vintage vibe in ponycars but find the 66 Bronco frumpy and reminiscent of an old Falcon (look at a pic of the STOCK 66 Bronco with little tires). I like the 78-79 dentside because that says "Ford Truck" to me.

After 79 the Bronco was kind of bland and boring and IMO not worth copying in terms of body lines although the short wheelbase/tall SUV look was cool. They all look cooler with giant mudder tires and stuff, but we ain't gonna get that.

I'm a big fan of auto design and you should actually look at the different generations of Broncos and see what I'm talking about. You don't have to agree with my impressions, but you can't lump the 78-96 together. 78-79, 80-86, and 87-96 are the generations.

So I'll push for the 78-79 vibe
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I have faith in the Ford designers not a lot but enough to wait and see what they come up with. Bring back a name like Bronco can not be an easy task. As times have changed so must the idea of want a bronco is. We know it's not going to be a full size and we have heard it's not going to be a two door. That right there has a lot of pure bronco lovers turned off but if they can give us something that's tuff looking and performs then I'm in. Also I sure pray it's got a V8 option!!
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Iíd be shocked if they make it a Wrangler competitor, like solid axles and body on frame etc.

Iím expecting a unibody with at least IFS and possibly IRS as well with V6 power. I honestly believe people want the look but not the ride characteristics of a Wrangler type vehicle. Iíd also expect just enough of a retro look that if you squint in the dark it will resemble the original Bronco.

Iíll never sell my Ď73, but I donít think that type of vehicle would sell today.
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It won't be a unibody....it will be built in the same plant as the Ranger in Wayne, MI, and will at least partially be based on the Everest which is a Ranger variant sold in Australia and other countries. These are body/frame vehicles.

It will likely have Ecoboost 4 cylinders and/or 6 cylinder engines. The new 2018-1/2 Wrangler has the existing Pentastar V6 and a turbo 4 cyl option. Anyone expecting a V8 is not being realistic--there is no V8 option in the Expedition or Navigator, which are much larger and heavier vehicles. Nor is a V8 offered in Ford's flagship Raptor pickup.
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