1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Dentsides Ford Truck
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Moser

Truck stalls, then shoots gasoline up and out of the carb! HELP!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 07-22-2017, 06:01 PM
Dads76XLT's Avatar
Dads76XLT
Dads76XLT is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Truck stalls, then shoots gasoline up and out of the carb! HELP!

So, I am driving along in my 76 F250 with its original 460 and 4bbl carb. Suddenly the truck quits running and we coast to a stop. I am able to crank for a while and it finally starts again, but only runs for a few seconds, then stalls. We get out to take a look see. We take off the air cleaner cover and crank it up again. It runs for a few seconds then stalls. This time, since we can see the carb, gasoline spews out of the two little oran pipe looking tubes on the front of the carb all over the place. It does this every time now. Will only run for a few seconds, then its "Old Faithful Geyser" again!

What has happened to my otherwise great runnig truck?!? And how do I fix it?!?
 
  #2  
Old 07-22-2017, 06:23 PM
Blue and White's Avatar
Blue and White
Blue and White is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,553
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
For diagnostic purposes, it would help to know the fuel pressure the carb is getting. After you get it home, suggest you rig a fuel pressure gauge on a "T" on the feed to the carb. Fire it up and have a helper watch the gauge.

With a Ford (or Holly) carb, 5-7 psi is good, 9 psi is probably OK and more is a problem. FWIW Edelbrock carbs like 3-5 psi and over 5 is a problem.

If fuel pressure is OK, sounds like time for a carb rebuild, new carb or reman carb. Personally, I don't work on carbs enough to be good at it so I buy new or reman.

If fuel pressure is high, the fuel pump is hurting. Also check oil for signs of dilution from fuel.
 
  #3  
Old 07-22-2017, 07:39 PM
HIO Silver's Avatar
HIO Silver
HIO Silver is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NorCal
Posts: 20,676
Received 58 Likes on 48 Posts
Stuck/misadjusted float.
​​​
 
  #4  
Old 07-22-2017, 07:52 PM
1TonBasecamp's Avatar
1TonBasecamp
1TonBasecamp is online now
Lead Driver
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 8,333
Likes: 0
Received 731 Likes on 585 Posts
Depending on where you live, perhaps the fuel chemistry (ethanol?) is having it's way with your needle tip. Especially if you have one of the rubber-tipped type (or whatever that material is?) vs the brass tip type.

An old-school (but effective temporarily) trick is to smack the top of the carburetor near the float pivot to see if the issue goes away.
When I've experienced it, different carbs acted differently. Sometimes they would stick closed and starve the engine for fuel. Sometimes they would stick open and fill the float bowls like you're experiencing.
In both cases a good smack with an appropriate tool would get me back on the road again. For anywhere from a few months, to just a few hours at it's worst.

The tool of choice for me at first was the plastic handle on one of my bigger screwdrivers. Could get a good whack out of it without marring the carb body. But after enough time and still having the problem, I graduated to a hammer. At that point I just didn't care about the carb any longer!
Hope you don't get to that point.

Good luck.

Paul
 
  #5  
Old 07-22-2017, 09:39 PM
PapaBearYuma's Avatar
PapaBearYuma
PapaBearYuma is offline
Cargo Master

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Great American SouthWest
Posts: 3,344
Received 30 Likes on 26 Posts
I experienced the exact same problem in the yellow truck a while back. I was coming home from work, and when a Chevy pulled alongside at a red light, I was obliged to let the ponies run.

As I coasted to the next red light, I didn't notice that the engine died. The engine restarted, but then died again. I could only keep the engine running by keeping the RPMs way up, so I was driving home in first gear at 2000 RPM.

I pulled off to the side of the road, pulled the air cleaner, and saw the fountain. Some debris had either prevented the needle valve from closing or caused the float to stick.

Pulled the carb, pulled the bowls, blew everything out, and all was well again
 
  #6  
Old 07-25-2017, 08:06 PM
Dads76XLT's Avatar
Dads76XLT
Dads76XLT is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Gentlemen,

Thank you so much for the advise! Sure enough, a few taps of the handle side of a screwdriver fixed the trouble. Simply hilarious.

A day before the bowls flooded over, I changed the fuel filters. I would say that I lodged something loose in the lines and it made it's way up to the bowl float valves and they stuck open.

On the road again!

Thanks.
 
  #7  
Old 07-25-2017, 09:20 PM
1TonBasecamp's Avatar
1TonBasecamp
1TonBasecamp is online now
Lead Driver
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 8,333
Likes: 0
Received 731 Likes on 585 Posts
Hey, congrats! Rollin' old-school baby!

Remember, if you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.
Then again, many a starter has been "fixed" with a hammer. And now you know you can fix a carburetor too.

Paul
 
  #8  
Old 07-26-2017, 03:44 AM
Ozzie H.'s Avatar
Ozzie H.
Ozzie H. is offline
Laughing Gas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: S.E. Louisiana;so far USA
Posts: 1,207
Received 56 Likes on 48 Posts
Your scenario sounds like a likely one. Probably the crud was dislodged from the needle/seat by your tapping and landed in the bottom of the float bowl. If you ever feel like doing an overhaul of the carburetor, such is possible. I have the exact vehicle, and did the overhaul this past year. The carburetor is the Motorcraft 4350. The exact model is shown on a tag on the carburetor. Kits are available. If you'd like to read about it look in the Ford Truck Shop Manual, 1976, volume 2 (engine) or the Motorcraft Carburetor Service Manual, volume II, dated 1977. It covers the 4350 variations back to the original.
 
  #9  
Old 07-27-2017, 07:54 PM
Dads76XLT's Avatar
Dads76XLT
Dads76XLT is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ozzie H,

Yes, I have the shop manuals here and have looked over the overhaul job. The prospect scares me to death, so I hope I never need to cross that road! But, where would I get the correct overhaul kit if need be??
 
  #10  
Old 07-27-2017, 09:53 PM
PapaBearYuma's Avatar
PapaBearYuma
PapaBearYuma is offline
Cargo Master

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Great American SouthWest
Posts: 3,344
Received 30 Likes on 26 Posts
Originally Posted by Dads76XLT
Ozzie H,

Yes, I have the shop manuals here and have looked over the overhaul job. The prospect scares me to death, so I hope I never need to cross that road! But, where would I get the correct overhaul kit if need be??
summit, jegs or ebay
 
  #11  
Old 07-28-2017, 03:30 AM
Ozzie H.'s Avatar
Ozzie H.
Ozzie H. is offline
Laughing Gas
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: S.E. Louisiana;so far USA
Posts: 1,207
Received 56 Likes on 48 Posts
Originally Posted by Dads76XLT
Ozzie H,

Yes, I have the shop manuals here and have looked over the overhaul job. The prospect scares me to death, so I hope I never need to cross that road! But, where would I get the correct overhaul kit if need be??
As PBY said, they are readily available. Shop around for the best deal. If it is working well again, perhaps you don't need to do anything. The crud will likely remain on the bottom of the bowl and not cause difficulties. ????? But you don't have to be afraid of the job. I'm far from an "expert", and I was able to accomplish the deed. The "secret", if you will, is to understand the principles of operation of the carburetor, and be able to read and understand the shop manual or overhaul manual, and have enough time to devote. Hurrying is dangerous. You can make photographs at each stage of disassembly. Commercially rebuilt 4350s are also available, but the expense is far higher, and I found that I prefer my own work to the so called "professionals". The 4350 isn't liked by some Ford owners due to its nature to become problematic more easily, but I've found that when everything is set properly it can be just as reliable as a GM Quadrajet or any other carburetor. Mine is doing well. Best wishes.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Austin Soper
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
12
12-07-2015 11:16 AM
dorf dude
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
14
02-17-2013 08:04 AM
1951flatheaddave
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
25
05-02-2012 12:49 PM
soundman502
Fuel Injection, Carburetion & Fuel System
27
03-09-2007 03:40 AM
Pwarrenn
Supercharger, Turbocharger, Nitrous Oxide & Water/Methanol Injection
3
04-19-2006 08:02 PM



Quick Reply: Truck stalls, then shoots gasoline up and out of the carb! HELP!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:24 PM.