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what you can tolerate...

till I was 50... 10,000 rpm 1L motorcycle was Sweet.
till I was 60.... 6,000 rpm were fine on 1.8L 2 cylinder.
till I was 63... 5,000 rpm from a V8 6.2L.. is OK
at 65.. I am looking at (add on) sound deadening for my F 250 "XL" body booming from 4k rpms...

if you do not like RPM's get a diesel... my opinion. Gas needs to spin for power.
or wait till Electric becomes a real power provider... 1 rpm is max torque...
 
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Originally Posted by Chuck's First Ford
what you can tolerate...

till I was 50... 10,000 rpm 1L motorcycle was Sweet.
till I was 60.... 6,000 rpm were fine on 1.8L 2 cylinder.
till I was 63... 5,000 rpm from a V8 6.2L.. is OK
at 65.. I am looking at (add on) sound deadening for my F 250 "XL" body booming from 4k rpms...

if you do not like RPM's get a diesel... my opinion. Gas needs to spin for power.
or wait till Electric becomes a real power provider... 1 rpm is max torque...
i agree, but with the caveat that for me it depends on how long. RPM didn't bother me much at all till we got into some real mountain country. Some factors are just not as intrusive until they are more frequent for longer periods of time. I really never even thought about it until I think about Wyoming.

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i agree, but with the caveat that for me it depends on how long. RPM didn't bother me much at all till we got into some real mountain country. Some factors are just not as intrusive until they are more frequent for longer periods of time. I really never even thought about it until I think about Wyoming.

Steve

agreed.... a mile or 2. not a problem.

long steady hills/mountains... is..

Like Independence pass ... in Colorado..
 
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The first time I ever had to pull over to let an engine/transmission cool down was in Wyoming, heading west into the Big Horn National Forest on 14. I'm looking forward to that same trip in my F-350/6.7 and a trailer that is five times heavier.

A lot of passes in Wyoming and Colorado wouldn't be half as bad if they didn't have switchbacks that force you to slow to 10 MPH.
 
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The first time I ever had to pull over to let an engine/transmission cool down was in Wyoming, heading west into the Big Horn National Forest on 14. I'm looking forward to that same trip in my F-350/6.7 and a trailer that is five times heavier.

A lot of passes in Wyoming and Colorado wouldn't be half as bad if they didn't have switchbacks that force you to slow to 10 MPH.
if you have never towed west of the Mississippi (I hadn't), it is really an eye opener. Everything from the hills to the open space is breathtaking. Some of the grades seem to go on forever compared to what I was used to in the Southeast and where the crap are all the people? There's no one here.
 
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if you have never towed west of the Mississippi (I hadn't), it is really an eye opener. Everything from the hills to the open space is breathtaking. Some of the grades seem to go on forever compared to what I was used to in the Southeast and where the crap are all the people? There's no one here.
Steve that about sums it up. I worked and traveled all the states east of the Mississippi and when work offered a job to over see the midest crews I took it at that time I never really took a vacation and that year I said to the wife I wanted to take 2 weeks off, rent a class c and see the west (SD, WY, MT, ID, UT). I remember saying you never know when we'll be this close to the west again. We did and in that 2 weeks almost 5000 miles, sensory overload is when we decided to move from the east and fulltime in the 5th out west. It's almost like a vacation that doesn't end...almost.

Back to the topic. Reving 6.2
 
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Lifelong West coaster here.

After living in Alaska for over 40 years we are now on the East coast(VA) due to the ageing in-laws. Not for sure how long I can take this area! I am not criticizing the people at all, its just different living here. No mountains, few dirt roads and lots of people to name a few.

The OP asked me why the 6.2/4.30 was my choice and I stated why it was my choice. I believe he lives in FL. Having said that, he could get by with the 3.73 there. I guess I should add that we are willing to sacrifice the length and weight of a larger 5er in able to use the 6.2/4.30 combo, especially when towing in the west.
 
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And Steve's (RV Tech) comments about pullng in the western states with the 6.2........it was just like having a job!! I.E. it was *work" and I hated the noise level in the cabin. The first day wasn't so bad, but when you have to get up and start over again...............6.7 PSD!!!!!! Now it is like going on vacation!!!!!
 
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Is it really that bad? Is it much different than the 3v v 10? Maybe rv puller can comment.
 
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Rvpuller didn't have 3v V10 his was a 2v V10.
Having a 3v V10 will make no difference for the engine working in the upper end of the rpm. I had a 08 V10 with 4.30 gears pulling 14k 5th wheel with 285+k miles on it when I sold it. I pulled the mountains in the west and drove the whole east of the Mississippi with it. When you're in a steep 7% climb for miles on end the gas engine will work and sing along the way with the transmission down shifting in the climb. Now I dont pull with my 6.2 3.73 gear truck but did run heavily loaded and it would do the same thing in the mountains but that is why they have a tow haul button to help the engine stay in the sweet spot.
 
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Lifelong West coaster here.

After living in Alaska for over 40 years we are now on the East coast(VA) due to the ageing in-laws. Not for sure how long I can take this area! I am not criticizing the people at all, its just different living here. No mountains, few dirt roads and lots of people to name a few.

The OP asked me why the 6.2/4.30 was my choice and I stated why it was my choice. I believe he lives in FL. Having said that, he could get by with the 3.73 there. I guess I should add that we are willing to sacrifice the length and weight of a larger 5er in able to use the 6.2/4.30 combo, especially when towing in the west.
yes I was the OP and live in Florida. The trailer I was looking at weighs in between 11.5 up to 14 k if loaded to the max (with all tanks fully loaded which we never will do so you can subtract 1600#.)
But still around 12.5 -13k will be the normal weight which is at the upper amount and even over the weight for the 6.2 with the 3.73. But until I get the trailer on the scales I won't really know. The 6.2 with 4.30 has fifth wheel max of 15.6k which seemed like the best choice giving a margin of safety in case trailer is heavier than specs say.
 
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Originally Posted by Chuck's First Ford
what you can tolerate...

till I was 50... 10,000 rpm 1L motorcycle was Sweet.
till I was 60.... 6,000 rpm were fine on 1.8L 2 cylinder.
till I was 63... 5,000 rpm from a V8 6.2L.. is OK
at 65.. I am looking at (add on) sound deadening for my F 250 "XL" body booming from 4k rpms...

if you do not like RPM's get a diesel... my opinion. Gas needs to spin for power.
or wait till Electric becomes a real power provider... 1 rpm is max torque...
Or get a Lariat with the additional sound deadening . . . cheaper than a diesel.

You will hear the diesel more in an XL as well.
 
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Originally Posted by Larrymac52
yes I was the OP and live in Florida. The trailer I was looking at weighs in between 11.5 up to 14 k if loaded to the max (with all tanks fully loaded which we never will do so you can subtract 1600#.)
But still around 12.5 -13k will be the normal weight which is at the upper amount and even over the weight for the 6.2 with the 3.73. But until I get the trailer on the scales I won't really know. The 6.2 with 4.30 has fifth wheel max of 15.6k which seemed like the best choice giving a margin of safety in case trailer is heavier than specs say.
Which 5er are you looking at?
 
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Which 5er are you looking at?
GD Reflection 311 bh
 
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The 6.2 with 4.30 gears will be a win, win for your application.
 


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