Heavy Duty Drag Race: 2017 Ford F-250 vs 2017 Ram 2500 [Video] - The Fast Lane Truck
Ram has more power, but more weight, and has a "better" drag gear.
But lost ...
Personally, I find drag racing work trucks a bit silly. But it will be good fodder here at least.


Here's the fuel economy version:
http://www.tfltruck.com/2017/07/base...2017-ram-2500/
slightly better when empty and far better when towing!


Ford won the drag race and the fuel economy.

The 6.2L Rulz!

 

Yup. But for a little perspective, the 6.2 (lighter truck, smaller displacement) and 3.73 gears, beat the 6.4 with 4.10 gears in the empty mileage contest by 0.1 MPG. By all rights the Ford should have killed the Ram in the mileage department. But few folks, pound for pound, have accused the Hemi of being a gas hog. And those who frequent both forums would most likely say the Hemi gets better mileage reports than the 6.2. I would also say that there are a lot of folks here that believe the 3.73 to be the faster gear set. Not sure what I believe about that just yet.


Having said that, my next truck will most likely be a 6.2 (I don't buy trucks for mileage). And despite what the specs say, I think the Ford does a better job putting the power to the asphalt and I'm beginning to think the Torqshift-G has a lot to do with that (up to this point, I have yet to see an F-350 6.2 with the 6R140 tested like the F-250 has been).

 

I am more interested in work Life..

a member here.. just had a 6.2L failure a 2011, with 418,000 miles... and its First major failure. and few minor ones.

my Dodge Ram eat a 5 speed at 55,000. but my Car with a 5 speed went 255,000 and original clutch.

 

The Ford won the towing mileage by more than 1mpg! Towing around 12k pounds! Nobody buys a truck to drive empty (well - not anyone but a poser).

Overall, I do agree. Most of the TFL tests are a bit silly, and I am on record for berating their "IKE" testing because they manipulate the loads in a manner that will often favor one brand over another (they don't do it on purpose, but by ignorance of how gearing affects results).

They are all good trucks, overall. I would tend to the Ford, and it will be my next truck (6.2L over the diesel).

It's just fun to poke at the Hemi guys.

 

its more "FUN" is the Hemi.. its NOT a "REAL" hemi.. its advertising hype.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Hemi_engine

look at Third Generation Hemi.... you do not have to believe me.

 

Those guys usually test at higher altitude, in I think Colorado. I wonder what the drag race and mileage match up would be closer to sea level, where the majority of people live. I wonder if it would be a closer match up or a land slide.

 

Typically the results will be very similar.

In the old days, using carbs, then how one engine might be jetted versus the other could have some performance implications based on altitude.

But fuel injection runs fairly close to the stoichiometric target; that's what it's good at! Both trucks here will run a bit lean under light loads, and both will run a bit rich under very heavy loading. But overall they will compensate for air density pretty much equally. So the race results may differ in total elapsed time, but the disparity between the two will be similar regardless of where run. That is the beauty of fuel injection (gas or CR diesel); they compensate for the density changes.

 

That's cool! I've watched plenty of TFL Truck's YouTube videos and I bought their book Truck Nuts. It's entertaining at least.


The new Ram 1500 EcoDiesel is where it's at for a truck with excellent fuel mileage. My co-worker has one. I guess Ford is going to release a small diesel in their half-ton soon too. You wouldn't get much work done with one of those though.

 

I want an old 2500 or 3500 8.0 V10 standard trans

 

I would like my 2012 to have a 5 or 6 speed Manual transmission....

my first automatic anything.. since high school.. over 50 years ago.

oh, wait,, there was that Caprice in the late 70's... for a year or 2.

 

FWIW, the Ram tranny is taller geared vs the Ford. So the 3.73 Ford vs 4.10 Ram actually turns out the same rpm. I wonder which combo offers the best leverage to get torque to the ground?

 

I see the drag race for what it is; it's entertaining and nothing more. But it does represent what these two combinations do when pitted against each other. This is not unlike any other drag race; he who gets there first wins. You can "what if ..." this thing to death. If the Ram had different gears; if the Ford used 4:30s; if the Ford had a passenger, if the trannies were the same ...

When people take their dedicated drag cars to the 1/4 mile track, they don't say "Hey - I could have beat you if you had used the same smaller jets in your Holley like I did ..." NO! - you "Run what ya brung."


Bottom line is this:
The Ram lost and the Ford won. Those results are fair for this match-up. It won't apply to other match-ups, but this one is valid.

The Ford was not only faster, but got better fuel mileage empty and towing.

'Nuff said.