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Originally Posted by EXSwap View Post
The material seems to be cast aluminium and I'm not sure what corrosion, if any, would occur with the gas stored in there all the time.
Probably only react to any water in the fuel, long term.

Aluminum blocks, heads, and even fuel lines hold up to petroleum products pretty well, but if you're really concerned, KBS Coatings has stuff you can line the inside of a fuel tank with. I bet that would work for your pump, if it can be thinned enough to properly coat all of the smaller passages.

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Too much to quote, but I'll jump in.

The fuel cell (deemed the MOAS) is indeed considered not serviceable, due to parts not being available. The decision for this approach was done in a room w/ many liability Lawyers, a coupla/3 Engineers, and someone from the USCG.

These folks (well, most of them) were terrified that someone working under the shade of a tree, might dive in to a high pressure (gasoline) fuel system, located in a bilge, and possibly cut a corner or miss something.
And so, an un-servicable item, with powder-coat mistakenly applied to a surface in contact with gas (worse, an ethanol-like solvent) created this debacle.

Sidenote-While the Torx screws used to assemble are not considered "Tamper-proof", the first time you disassembled it, you might recall you had to dig out epoxy for the torx-bit. This epoxy was the "tattletell" that someone tampered w/ the MOAS. I'll let you guess who insisted on this and why.

Do not worry about corrosion affecting the inside of the bowl. If H2O is getting past the filter(s), especially the one actually on the MOAS, you'd have bigger problems. Leave it bare and let your filter/separator prevent the corrosion's cause.

* Disclaimer* The following are suggestions on servicing a non-serviceable VP MOAS fuel cell from a tired, upper middle-aged guy w/ poor memory and far too many miles.

Use Lacquer Thinner/MEK, or similar, to remove paint/PC from inside of cell.
Replace all o-rings. You will have to go aftermarket. This includes the o-rings on the lines themselves. They really are sacrificial and not intended for re-use. Use motor oil on them and their ports on reassembly.
Fill a new filter prior to install & initial dry start. The "first" pump is a low pressure pump, its "lift" ability is next to nil. Neither the LP or HP pump tolerates any dry running.
Cycle the key several times to let the pumps run to get fuel psi up prior to starting..all while checking for leaks. (Unplug the high side, and just run the LP for 1st leak check)
Above all else, make sure you have no leaks after reassembly....all with new o-rings.

Did mention to use new, (correct material Nitrile) o-rings, and check for leaks?


MOAS...Mother Of All (fuel) Systems....Wadn't me, I was too busy dealing w/the green ones.
 
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We call this "yardkill". It is the good parts of an old Kawasaki Mule 500. It has the fe290 industrial motor that was used in a lot of golf carts and other than needing re-ringed and belching oil smoke and, it runs pretty good. Also repels bugs. It might be the most fun $100 can legally buy you on Craigslist. It will be this Winters welding project.
 
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I bought a John Deere L100 this spring that had a blown engine, I put a 20 year old Craftsman engine in it, added an electric fuel pump and cut off switch. The rascal runs good. I am having belt issues. Now that most of the car emergencies are done for now I want to see if I can get this FrankenDeere cutting the grass.
 
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Originally Posted by High Cetane View Post
Too much to quote, but I'll jump in.

The fuel cell (deemed the MOAS) is indeed considered not serviceable, due to parts not being available. The decision for this approach was done in a room w/ many liability Lawyers, a coupla/3 Engineers, and someone from the USCG.

These folks (well, most of them) were terrified that someone working under the shade of a tree, might dive in to a high pressure (gasoline) fuel system, located in a bilge, and possibly cut a corner or miss something.
And so, an un-servicable item, with powder-coat mistakenly applied to a surface in contact with gas (worse, an ethanol-like solvent) created this debacle.

Sidenote-While the Torx screws used to assemble are not considered "Tamper-proof", the first time you disassembled it, you might recall you had to dig out epoxy for the torx-bit. This epoxy was the "tattletell" that someone tampered w/ the MOAS. I'll let you guess who insisted on this and why.

Do not worry about corrosion affecting the inside of the bowl. If H2O is getting past the filter(s), especially the one actually on the MOAS, you'd have bigger problems. Leave it bare and let your filter/separator prevent the corrosion's cause.

* Disclaimer* The following are suggestions on servicing a non-serviceable VP MOAS fuel cell from a tired, upper middle-aged guy w/ poor memory and far too many miles.

Use Lacquer Thinner/MEK, or similar, to remove paint/PC from inside of cell.
Replace all o-rings. You will have to go aftermarket. This includes the o-rings on the lines themselves. They really are sacrificial and not intended for re-use. Use motor oil on them and their ports on reassembly.
Fill a new filter prior to install & initial dry start. The "first" pump is a low pressure pump, its "lift" ability is next to nil. Neither the LP or HP pump tolerates any dry running.
Cycle the key several times to let the pumps run to get fuel psi up prior to starting..all while checking for leaks. (Unplug the high side, and just run the LP for 1st leak check)
Above all else, make sure you have no leaks after reassembly....all with new o-rings.

Did mention to use new, (correct material Nitrile) o-rings, and check for leaks?


MOAS...Mother Of All (fuel) Systems....Wadn't me, I was too busy dealing w/the green ones.
Great info! Thanks! One item you mention I haven't dealt with is the o-rings. I need to pull it all apart and find aftermarket replacements, and stock an extra set or two. I'm always very careful to make sure I don't have any leakage and check it on every startup. Kinda like running the blower for a bit before hand. I haven't personally seen a boat go up in flames, but I've seen enough videos and "after" pictures. It ain't pretty. I do remember the epoxy on the screw heads the first time I took it out. Good news is, after the fuel pump cleanout and spending 5 hours pulling every ground I could find, cleaning it, and reinstalling, no more trouble codes or engine alarm. Running pretty good and was able to get out on the water for some much needed R&R this weeknd.
 
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Found a game on the phone, very addicting.
Fantasy Baseball and Plants vs Zombies 2 already have my attention, behind FTE. I don't need another excuse to not be productive during the day!

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Lost my old man on the 9th

He has taken up residence in the garage so I can yell at him when I can't find and/or break something




Also started driving this truck part time.

 
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Lost my old man on the 9th

He has taken up residence in the garage so I can yell at him when I can't find and/or break something
Sorry to hear that, Joe. At least he has a nice view.
 
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Lost my old man on the 9th
Joe, I hope he was good and old when he went. If not, I am sorry to hear about him passing. Like Mark said, he has a good view! Nice of you to give him the high ground.
 
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Only in .308 or larger...
 
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Joe, Sorry about your Pop passing, but I think it's pretty awesome to have him hanging out in the garage with you now.


And driving that rollback will be very handy, I think you have posted more pictures of projects on trailers than anyone else here.
 

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