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Old 07-09-2017, 11:21 AM
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I would not make any decisions based on the price of diesel versus gas. Both engines are turbo'd, so that is also a no-op WRT cost/benefits.

The only real issues are that the diesel will use less fuel, and that it "might" tow better. As the guts of both engines are built like diesels, I think the longevity of both engines will be similar, or at least not enough different to make longevity an issue.

Personally, I probably would not go with the diesel. I don't think it would pencil out over 3, 4, or maybe even 5 years.
 
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Originally Posted by GlueGuy
I would not make any decisions based on the price of diesel versus gas. Both engines are turbo'd, so that is also a no-op WRT cost/benefits.

The only real issues are that the diesel will use less fuel, and that it "might" tow better. As the guts of both engines are built like diesels, I think the longevity of both engines will be similar, or at least not enough different to make longevity an issue.

Personally, I probably would not go with the diesel. I don't think it would pencil out over 3, 4, or maybe even 5 years.
I had to quote the whole msg because you stated EXACTLY what I was gonna post...
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Additionally, todays gassers are going 200-300k miles pretty regularly which is traditional diesel longevity territory...
 
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I wouldn't bet on many of these new Fords going that far but we'll see in the next decade who was right. With an Ecoboost your just as likely to have early onset troubles as you are having late year issues. How many have 100,000 miles on their Ecoboosts here?


I'd say the 5.0 has a much better chance getting to 200,000 but that's allot of miles for a Ford. My 1991 Toyota is at 228,000 miles.
That's allot of miles with only a starter and front locking hub replacement.


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I had to quote the whole msg because you stated EXACTLY what I was gonna post...
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Additionally, todays gassers are going 200-300k miles pretty regularly which is traditional diesel longevity territory...
 
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:40 PM
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How many have 100,000 miles on their Ecoboosts here?
Lots, I had 147k on mine when I traded.
 
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that's allot of miles for a Ford. [/QUOTE]

Are you trolling? 200k is not spectacular for any well maintained truck these days. My '99 F250 with a v10 was running damn strong when I sold it with 165,000+ on the odometer. As an owner of numerous Toyota trucks (the ones from the era that earned them that long life rep)...they were no more reliable than anything else. There was a thread on this very forum if I'm not mistaken where a guy was wondering how to handle their companies shuttle vans with the notorious 5.4 engines rolling past the digital odometers max. The 5.4!!! An often labeled problematic engine despite it being as Ford put it their most reliable engine they've ever made based on warranty claims. Maybe just rearrange the wording, Ford for alot of miles
 
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I would not touch a new Diesel either.
Doubtful that they will last as long as the older ones due to the wacko smog systems,
Price of injectors is $500 ea. on most engines
 
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The 3 valve 5.4s were the problematic one due to cam phaser and injector problems. The vans never got the 3V varient. The 2 valve engines with PI heads are rock solid.
 
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I wanted a diesel in a F150 for many years but once I started driving ecoboost's that has changed. My 5 Star tuned '17 has around 400 HP/500 LB FT of torque. Why would I want a low HP diesel that would run like a dog when I can have an ecoboost and pass anything in sight while pulling a trailer? The diesel will cost more up front and will have higher yearly maintenance costs and probably more expensive repairs. I run premium with my ecoboost and around here diesel is the same price so no savings there. Once winter returns diesel will be even higher.
I think Ford said a few months back you would need to drive 20k miles per year for it to pencil out.
The only thing the diesel has going for it is superior fuel economy but if it doesn't pencil out why do it?
 
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Ill never buy a first year Diesel from any brand
Lets not forget the 6.0 disaster head gasket and the 6.4 worse disaster
However I would love a Diesel 150
 
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Originally Posted by Excelerater
Ill never buy a first year Diesel from any brand
Lets not forget the 6.0 disaster head gasket and the 6.4 worse disaster
However I would love a Diesel 150
This isn´t a "new diesel". Land Rover has used it since 2013.
 
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Originally Posted by CGiron
This isn´t a "new diesel". Land Rover has used it since 2013.
Yes it's a new design. From the article "Ford also says the engine is designed, tested, and engineered specifically for use in the F-150 diesel".

It's a variation of a current engine. They are not taking a current engine and throw it in a F150.
 
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