05 F250 SD 102k miles
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Just got a call from the dealership. They are saying that the ICP is bad and needs to be replaced along with the harness. Then they also believe the turbo needs to be replaced but they can't test that till the ICP is fixed.
1044.89 to fix the ICP if the turbo is bad it's covered under warranty!
Called my local dealer for part prices the ICP sensor is 167.17 and the pigtail is 90.23. So with my calculations parts are about $280 with tax.
They allow 3.5 hours of labor to do the sensor, that's a lot of labor charge.
2005 ICP is on passenger side valve cover behind the alternator if I remember reading that correct? How hard is this to do myself. I'm not familiar with the 6.0 but I am familiar with turning a wrench or two.
1044.89 to fix the ICP if the turbo is bad it's covered under warranty!
Called my local dealer for part prices the ICP sensor is 167.17 and the pigtail is 90.23. So with my calculations parts are about $280 with tax.
They allow 3.5 hours of labor to do the sensor, that's a lot of labor charge.
2005 ICP is on passenger side valve cover behind the alternator if I remember reading that correct? How hard is this to do myself. I'm not familiar with the 6.0 but I am familiar with turning a wrench or two.
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To save about $750 on their labor you can learn to do it Cut the old connector out, solder the new one in, shrink some tube down on it On an '05 it's all up front on the passenger valve cover, so it's open and easy to get to. IMO i'd check the connector first, I've seen dealers say to replace dry ones simply because the book says do the connector also, just change the sensor first.
You should also be able to find a pigtail for more like $15-20, I'd call Riff Raff or FICMrepair to see what they can order. $90 is full across-the-counter retail rip off; a Dorman is $13 and since this isn't an oil seal I would be 100% fine running their connector.
You should also be able to find a pigtail for more like $15-20, I'd call Riff Raff or FICMrepair to see what they can order. $90 is full across-the-counter retail rip off; a Dorman is $13 and since this isn't an oil seal I would be 100% fine running their connector.
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You should also be able to find a pigtail for more like $15-20, I'd call Riff Raff or FICMrepair to see what they can order. $90 is full across-the-counter retail rip off; a Dorman is $13 and since this isn't an oil seal I would be 100% fine running their connector.
Going to go and have a sit down chat with the service advisor. Both times I have spoken to her she has sounded very confused. I will have to pay a $159 dollar diagnostics fee to get it back. Want to make sure what they are saying is what's really wrong. Don't want to buy ICP sensor and it's actually IPR valve as when she spoke to me she was using the term "valve".
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Yes use an OEM ICP sensor. Riff Raff sells that for about $30 cheaper than you quoted above.
IPR valve and pigtail you can do, too, if she comes back saying it was the valve and not the sensor. That pigtail tends to fail because of heat breaking down the plastic, they come apart when you remove them. That parts only $10:
IPR / VGT Soleniod Pigtail Connector Repair Kit 94-07
I want to say the IPR socket is 1 3/8", it's not the same size as the ICP.
IPR valve and pigtail you can do, too, if she comes back saying it was the valve and not the sensor. That pigtail tends to fail because of heat breaking down the plastic, they come apart when you remove them. That parts only $10:
IPR / VGT Soleniod Pigtail Connector Repair Kit 94-07
I want to say the IPR socket is 1 3/8", it's not the same size as the ICP.
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Spoke to her today she lowered the price to around 750. The sensor and pigtail was marked up. WAY UP. Asked it I could pop the hood on the truck wanted to see where it was. The mechanic came out to talk to me about it. I looked him dead in the eye and said "It's going to take you 2 hours to replace that?" He said with the pigtail yes, he had it unplugged so I was able to see the end there is no oil on it at look was actually really clean. So I'm going up there Saturday and replacing the ICP sensor in the dealership parking lot.
On the turbo he said he thinks it's sticking. He said it showed codes for that.. I didn't pull the, before I dropped it off again.. I will take torque pro with me Saturday and look at it. I will go with OEM as my closetest dealership has it in stock and I don't have to wait for it to come in.
On the turbo he said he thinks it's sticking. He said it showed codes for that.. I didn't pull the, before I dropped it off again.. I will take torque pro with me Saturday and look at it. I will go with OEM as my closetest dealership has it in stock and I don't have to wait for it to come in.
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Mmhmm... $1,044.89 right there Even if they wanted two full hours for diagnostics that's still almost $400 in more labor to replace a sensor that takes 5 minutes, and maybe a 20 minute soldering job.
Book time on the ICP sensor is a load of horse****. 1-2 hour diag and the parts markup, I'm ok with. That's actually fair, paying for IDS and the tech's competence. But the rest of it is just crazy. An STC fitting jobs is only a couple hundred more and involves tearing the top half of the engine down. It's like it never got updated for moving from the HPOP cover to the valve cover.
Book time on the ICP sensor is a load of horse****. 1-2 hour diag and the parts markup, I'm ok with. That's actually fair, paying for IDS and the tech's competence. But the rest of it is just crazy. An STC fitting jobs is only a couple hundred more and involves tearing the top half of the engine down. It's like it never got updated for moving from the HPOP cover to the valve cover.
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Mmhmm... $1,044.89 right there Even if they wanted two full hours for diagnostics that's still almost $400 in more labor to replace a sensor that takes 5 minutes, and maybe a 20 minute soldering job.
Book time on the ICP sensor is a load of horse****. 1-2 hour diag and the parts markup, I'm ok with. That's actually fair, paying for IDS and the tech's competence. But the rest of it is just crazy. An SCT fitting jobs is only a couple hundred more and involves tearing the top half of the engine down. It's like it never got updated for moving from the HPOP cover to the valve cover.
Book time on the ICP sensor is a load of horse****. 1-2 hour diag and the parts markup, I'm ok with. That's actually fair, paying for IDS and the tech's competence. But the rest of it is just crazy. An SCT fitting jobs is only a couple hundred more and involves tearing the top half of the engine down. It's like it never got updated for moving from the HPOP cover to the valve cover.
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It seemed to be running better. I haven't got to drive it yet as it's still at the dealership. Since I haven't paid for them to run the diagnostics on it I told them to go ahead and run it. I rather pay the $159 for that and know that everything is a ok.