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Question 48 Ford F6 Pto Parts

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I am new here as well as new to older Ford Trucks. I just bought a 1948 F6 which is in a great shape, but i found a leak coming from underneath, and when we looked we discovered that the PTO shaft seal is no good, as well as a gasket. I looked everywhere and i couldn`t find anyone who sells those parts. I would appreciate if you guys know anyone who might have them. Otherwise i will have to remove the PTO altogether which is something i don`t want to do because that PTO and Wench been on this truck since it was purchased by the first owner.

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If the gasket that you mention is leaking is between the PTO and the transmission, then it should be a common part and easy enough to come by. There were many manufacturers of PTO's over the years, but the bolt pattern and gaskets are common. Check with a heavy truck parts house or a truck bed dealer. They are normally a stack of tissue thin gaskets whose number is varied when the PTO is mounted to achieve proper backlash between the drive gear in the transmission and the driven gear in the PTO. If it is a different gasket on the PTO that is leaking, you'll likely have to get a sheet of gasket paper and cut one out yourself.

As for the shaft seal, clean the area around the shaft really well and inspect the steel ring around the perimeter of the seal. You should find a part number there. Any bearing shop will be able to cross reference that number and get you a proper seal. If there are no numbers, you may need to pull the seal out and measure the shaft diameter, bore diameter, and seal thickness. A decent bearing shop will be able to look a seal up for you based on those dimensions.
 
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Originally Posted by Ken-Farm
I am new here as well as new to older Ford Trucks. I just bought a 1948 F6 which is in a great shape, but i found a leak coming from underneath, and when we looked we discovered that the PTO shaft seal is no good, as well as a gasket. I looked everywhere and i couldn`t find anyone who sells those parts. I would appreciate if you guys know anyone who might have them. Otherwise i will have to remove the PTO altogether which is something i don`t want to do because that PTO and Wench been on this truck since it was purchased by the first owner.
The PTO is aftermarket, not genuine Ford. Ford didn't offer PTO's.

Transmission case came with removable cover where the PTO mounts. So the only Ford part number will be for the gasket between the cover and the case.
 
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The PTO opening is a standard SAE six bolt pattern. This is the same throughout the industry, although there are also eight bolt patterns too. When I was re-mounting the Tulsa PTO on my F-6 I was able to get the shim and regular gaskets at NAPA. And no doubt you can get a shaft seal there too. The most senior PTO's are Chelsea, Tulsa, and Muncie. If you cannot find a replacement seal you can always install a Jiffy Sleeve on the shaft.
 
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The PTO opening is a standard SAE six bolt pattern. This is the same throughout the industry, although there are also eight bolt patterns too. When I was re-mounting the Tulsa PTO on my F-6 I was able to get the shim and regular gaskets at NAPA. And no doubt you can get a shaft seal there too. The most senior PTO's are Chelsea, Tulsa, and Muncie. If you cannot find a replacement seal you can always install a Jiffy Sleeve on the shaft.
Dont forget dana/$picer
 
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Doh! Yep, that one too. CRS must be kicking in.
 
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And it's Speedi-Sleeve not Jiffy Sleeve. Geez!
 
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Originally Posted by BlueOvalRage
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If the gasket that you mention is leaking is between the PTO and the transmission, then it should be a common part and easy enough to come by. There were many manufacturers of PTO's over the years, but the bolt pattern and gaskets are common. Check with a heavy truck parts house or a truck bed dealer. They are normally a stack of tissue thin gaskets whose number is varied when the PTO is mounted to achieve proper backlash between the drive gear in the transmission and the driven gear in the PTO. If it is a different gasket on the PTO that is leaking, you'll likely have to get a sheet of gasket paper and cut one out yourself.

As for the shaft seal, clean the area around the shaft really well and inspect the steel ring around the perimeter of the seal. You should find a part number there. Any bearing shop will be able to cross reference that number and get you a proper seal. If there are no numbers, you may need to pull the seal out and measure the shaft diameter, bore diameter, and seal thickness. A decent bearing shop will be able to look a seal up for you based on those dimensions.
Thank you for your response. I took your advice and went to a heavy truck dealer and a shop right down the road and he said the exact same thing about the gasket as you did, not only that but he pulled them off the shelf. As for the seal he said he would have to look at it to know which one exactly, and he said the company that made the PTO still in business and i received the part today.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
The PTO is aftermarket, not genuine Ford. Ford didn't offer PTO's.

Transmission case came with removable cover where the PTO mounts. So the only Ford part number will be for the gasket between the cover and the case.
I never said it was Ford PTO. The guy i bought the truck from he bought it in 1958 from an orchard that used the truck to deliver apples to Boston, then he put the PTO on it and used the truck for his tree business.
 
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I never said it was Ford PTO. The guy i bought the truck from he bought it in 1958 from an orchard that used the truck to deliver apples to Boston, then he put the PTO on it and used the truck for his tree business.
Yes, this is correct, but you asked for a gasket and seal. How many members of this forum know that Ford did not offer a PTO? Some probably do, but not all.

So, the only Ford part number would be for the gasket on the cover that once it's removed, the PTO bolts on and then would use this same gasket.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Yes, this is correct, but you asked for a gasket and seal. How many members of this forum know that Ford did not offer a PTO? Some probably do, but not all.

So, the only Ford part number would be for the gasket on the cover that once it's removed, the PTO bolts on and then would use this same gasket.
Sir, you are correct. i finally found the parts and i may have it in the truck by tomorrow. Thanks for your reply all help is appreciated.
 
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