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[QUOTE=Dutter 2;17276791]Here's my tires and wheel set up. And yeah of course I'd rather buy toyos but when u need tires and only got $1100 u can't be picky and I need MTS living in the mountains I commute to the Ford dealership every day going 70 mph and the wobble comes and goes and it's just bad enough to shake my mirrors and dash but nothing crazy
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Nice looking truck.
Nice looking truck.
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I've run Airsoft BBs, steel shot BBs, and liquids in a bunch of different tires. From the puny little 215/75/15s on my Suzuki Vitara to the 44s that were on an old Scout.
Yes, they work, but no, they're not a perfect system. If this is primarily a street rig, the clip on or stick on lead weights are the way to go, no question. On my crawlers though, the lead weights are a waste of time. The first time you have a tire slip on the rim from running low air pressure, or you take a chunk of tread out on a rock somewhere, the static lead weight is no longer in the right spot to balance out that tire. There were numerous times that I would have my tire balanced in the morning, go run a trail, and have a truck that was bouncing around like a 10 year old hopped up on Mountain Dew and Pixie sticks on the way home.
The problem that I think a lot of guys run into with the BBs method is that it's a bit of trial and error to find the right amount in the tires, since our truck tires aren't standardized as much as commerical OTR tires are. So the charts are really more of a starting point than a cut and dry X amount of BBs for Y size tire. If you don't have a good way to break the bead at home, it will become a huge PITA real quick. So I think most of the guys that say "It doesn't work at all!!" are those that looked at a chart, threw that amount in the tire once, and it wasn't the right amount for them.
Going a bit too much is better than not enough, but I think there's a limit to that too. I had a couple tires that were a pain to balance out, and tossed an entire big bottle of Airsoft BBs in to, with the expectation that the extras would just spread out evenly around the tire. Ended up being even worse than with nothing. Bust the bead down a few times again, taking some out each time, until I finally hit the sweet spot.
I _think_ (but have nothing to back this up, other than a hunch), that the "too much" really means WAY too much, so that the extra spreads completely around the tire.
All that said, for most of my trucks, it works well enough. I still get a tiny amount of vibration at high speeds, like 75mph+, but it sure beats having to get tires rebalanced after every few wheeling trips.
Yes, they work, but no, they're not a perfect system. If this is primarily a street rig, the clip on or stick on lead weights are the way to go, no question. On my crawlers though, the lead weights are a waste of time. The first time you have a tire slip on the rim from running low air pressure, or you take a chunk of tread out on a rock somewhere, the static lead weight is no longer in the right spot to balance out that tire. There were numerous times that I would have my tire balanced in the morning, go run a trail, and have a truck that was bouncing around like a 10 year old hopped up on Mountain Dew and Pixie sticks on the way home.
The problem that I think a lot of guys run into with the BBs method is that it's a bit of trial and error to find the right amount in the tires, since our truck tires aren't standardized as much as commerical OTR tires are. So the charts are really more of a starting point than a cut and dry X amount of BBs for Y size tire. If you don't have a good way to break the bead at home, it will become a huge PITA real quick. So I think most of the guys that say "It doesn't work at all!!" are those that looked at a chart, threw that amount in the tire once, and it wasn't the right amount for them.
Going a bit too much is better than not enough, but I think there's a limit to that too. I had a couple tires that were a pain to balance out, and tossed an entire big bottle of Airsoft BBs in to, with the expectation that the extras would just spread out evenly around the tire. Ended up being even worse than with nothing. Bust the bead down a few times again, taking some out each time, until I finally hit the sweet spot.
I _think_ (but have nothing to back this up, other than a hunch), that the "too much" really means WAY too much, so that the extra spreads completely around the tire.
All that said, for most of my trucks, it works well enough. I still get a tiny amount of vibration at high speeds, like 75mph+, but it sure beats having to get tires rebalanced after every few wheeling trips.
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Sorry thought everyone lost interest well it works. It's smooth as ice going down the road. But the truck still wabbles on the freeway but I'm starting to think maybe it's just the road because the rides smooth on the highway. Either way everyone goes 70 mph in the morning commute. I haven't had a chance to take it on any other highways beings iv just been just going to work everyday to Oroville. The place where that big damn almost broke.
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