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Old 06-17-2017, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Whitey Ford View Post
Around the edge of the entire oring. It appeared the groove the oring fits in was not accurately cut, so the oring was sitting a little deeper in areas. We used black high temp rtv.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:40 AM
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Ford also sells an RTV in a 5.5 oz tube for use on the 7.3, but it is grey. I have used it on water pumps with no problems.
 
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:03 AM
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My airtex lasted 40K before leaking out the seep hole. Maybe I provoked it a bit because I was running my ELC too lean (small leak on t-stat made me add water a couple times) and my coolant definitely had rust in it. Bought a motorcraft (felt a bit heavier?) and put a bead of high-temp red rtv around the gasket. Not a drop so far. Oh, and I put a small bead of rtv around the airtext also which didn't leak itself. When I pulled the airtex, i noticed the t-stat gasket rolled during installation which caused the leak there. Hopefully the thorough flush, second new $90 batch of Rotella ELC, new motorcraft radiator, and hoses will keep me on going strong (at least on the cooling side) for a while.
 
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:08 AM
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Certainly no offense to Clay, but this is the last pump that I personally going to replace on mine and I expect it to last over 200k miles.....
The original pump on my truck died after 140k. What makes you think an OEM pump is going to last 200k?
 
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:44 AM
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The original pump on my truck died after 140k. What makes you think an OEM pump is going to last 200k?
Final Charge ELC coolant and the fact that I've had a coolant filter in my system for a long time so there should be no casting sand left in it to hurt the seal.
 
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Honestly, I'd be happy if any replacement part lasted as long as the original.
 
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Exactly. Why do the original pumps last so long verses ALL the others?
 
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitey Ford View Post
Exactly. Why do the original pumps last so long verses ALL the others?
That is the $64,000 question that man has been asking for ages and it is not just water pumps, it includes engines transmissions and most anything else mechanical.
 
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Old 06-22-2017, 08:03 AM
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I've seen this too.but also have read that they have no Ford logo or part numbers on them like the originals did......

Certainly no offense to Clay, but this is the last pump that I personally going to replace on mine and I expect it to last over 200k miles.....
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That's because branding.

Once upon a time, Ford had a contract with a company to make their water pumps and brand them as "Motorcraft". Years later, that contract expired.

Do they come with a Ford logo? Absolutely not.
Are they a Motorcraft part? Nope because that's a brand name and you didn't buy it from Ford.
Is it still the same as the OE pump. Yep.
Is that company Airtex? OMG NO, WHERE DID THIS RUMOR COME FROM??

Airtex is an aftermarket manufacturer who makes product based of OE design. IE: Dorman

"All Airtex water pumps match Original Equipment (OE) manufacturer specifications with no inferior material substitutions. The OE-quality water pump components include: pulleys and hubs installed with data-collecting automated presses; precision-ground and permanently lubricated unitized bearing assemblies; mounting surfaces machined to strict tolerances for proper sealing; impellers engineered for maximum coolant flow; and unitized seals to provide exceptional protection against leakage and contamination.
If Clay is advertising a genuine OEM water pump and not using lingo like above, then it's probably really an OEM one. No reason to assume it's not because of a lack of Ford / Motorcraft logo.

Also, about the China thing:
Parts are assembled in North America and the housings are forged overseas. Obviously, a big ole' CHINA stamp looks bad but it's just the reality.

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Strictly Diesel has original Alliant pumps. I have had two. They are great.
 
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Consider using Aviation Form-A-Gasket on the mating surfaces, and in the o-ring groove, too. It's good stuff, and has served me well for over fifty years.

All surfaces first have to be clean and dry!

Another product that I have seen used with a lot of success is 3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive (comes in both black and yellow), but it can be "stringy".

I find the Form-A-Gasket stuff is a lot easier to work with. Comes in a can with a brush-in-the-lid. Reminds you a little of thin tar (but it isn't).

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Anyone that experienced sub par WP performance, running a bypass cooler?

I'm running a guzzle setup bypass, Airtex pump with 150k..(1/11 install). My OEM is on the shelf, 100k on I with no issue
 
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I've got about 120,000 miles on this pump (the truck's second one) WITH a Baldwin bypass filter system that's been on there almost all of those miles (since 2010).

Still got green coolant, too, with DCA-2 (sometimes known as BTE) SCA.

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