Jim advised me against the single shots because of the tuning difficulties. I was told that that's why he offers the 80% split shots. He said he's been doing this for 12 years and most people have a very difficult time tuning single shot injectors and end up buying his 80% split shots instead. I explained to him I was going to use a very reputable tuner like dp tuner, power hungry, etc. His response to me was get ready to pull your chip out 5-7 times and ship it back to get re tuned. I was very surprised with his responses. I'm not knocking Jim but it's news to me about these issues with single shots. After talking with P.I.S. and Jody at dp tuner I'm told that tuning isn't an issue.

 

I always thought no matter what upgrade you did you had to get your chip retuned. My mistake. Lack of knowledge. That's why I was asking questions like that while talking to Jody.

 

I really, really, really, doubt that's true. I don't buy for one second that "most people have a difficult time tuning single shot injectors" simply because so many people here, including myself, have no problems running single shot injectors with out-of-the-box tunes.

You can put new tunes on a PHP chip with a laptop and the USB cable (which is included with the tuner). I don't know what this nonsense is about shipping your tuner back and forth. Do people still buy hardware that works this way? I bet they still own betamax VCRs too.

 

I was telling Jim I was going to run a TS performance chip. There isn't a way (that I know of) to do email tunes on it.
I didn't decide on the dp tuner till after I talked to Jody.

 

I know I will be getting new 160/80 single shot injectors because of their reputation for a great towing and everyday injector.

I already purchased the Hydra through GearHead, so I will have my tune emailed to me and load them myself.

Sit back, have a nice cool beverage of your choice and weigh your options. It is your money, time and truck.

 

I think that I understand what Jim meant exactly based upon two things. One of them being the TS chip with the other being rather obvious.

If I were in Jim's shoes and understood the limitations that the OP built for himself, I would probably recommend the exact same thing.

 

Except Jim wasn't thinking about the oil side of the 80% splits.

Jim suggests who to tune the 80% splits....because they dang sure won't perform correctly on stock split tuning.

 

Well, you should talk to two people about the two items I left.

Tugly, about how DP handled his tuning, and Mark K about his thoughts on the deeper trans pan. (Hint, he thinks it a waste)

 

I need the deep trans pan for the transmission temp sensor fitting. It's a derale stamped steel pan. They are cheap.

I'm sure dp tuning is a lot better than the TS chip I have. Must be way better than the edge cts I had on my excursion that fried my pcm, bcm, key sensor ring in steering column, and my ficm.

 

Not if you get the "standard" trans temp sensor 99% use that gets installed in the service port on the side of the transmission, which also gives a more accurate temp reading.

Save your money on that derale pan.

Stewart

 

Don't confuse the hardware for the software.

DP tuning is the software provider for the hardware. The F5, F6, TS chip, Hydra, etc are all hardware items that the tuning is downloaded onto.

Stewart

 

Didn't know about that port. I was told I had to either tap a port in the stock pan or buy a pan that had a port.

 

Sorry, but "shaking at idle" is not "running great". I for one care a lot about how my truck idles. It tells me a lot. Most guys don't seem to care as long as their truck screams from one red light to the next or tows like a banshee. I like mine to tow well, but it needs to be pleasant to sit in as well. This describes my tunes form GH. It had plenty of power, but coming down off of a pull or idling equaled an absolute pig of a truck.

I'd say Jim has been in it long enough to know of what he speaks. I'd take his word as the final say. Unless you can give me singles and have it idling baby-butt smooth as well running like a raped ape, no thanks. To each his own though.

 

Here's the location.

Stewart

 

I have a trans temp gauge with the stock pan. Use the access port on the side like Stewart says.

There's a reason the PHP Hydra keeps getting recommended.