Towing a large 5th Wheel with F-250
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So, I'm wondering what makes the 350 worth $1,500 more than a 250 because it seems that, if you order the camper package on a 250, it is virtually identical to a 350. And the package is only $160 or so . . . uprated front springs, overloads on the rear, anti-roll bar . . .
I can't help but wonder if there is something different that we are missing . . can't think of what it might be though . . . that's a lot of money for an emblem . . . and I guess you can pick the 11,500 GVWR on a 350 . . . if that licensing requirement is important for some reason.
I can't help but wonder if there is something different that we are missing . . can't think of what it might be though . . . that's a lot of money for an emblem . . . and I guess you can pick the 11,500 GVWR on a 350 . . . if that licensing requirement is important for some reason.
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What can an F-250 really tow
I am ready to buy a new 5th wheel. I have never owned a trailer of any kind before. I need help from the experienced people on this site - Please !. I am confused about towing specs, but slowly learning. The 5th wheel I would like to buy is 37', UVW of 12,600 Lbs., GVWR of 16,000 Lbs, Hitch weight of 2,500 pounds. I really don't want to buy a dually, but I want to be safe. I would like to get a single wheel F-250 or F-350. Specifically, the F-250 Crew Cab, 6.7L V8 diesel, 4x4, 160" wheel base, 6-3/4 box, with the 3.55 axle ratio. When I look at the Ford towing specs, it indicates that the vehicle can only tow up to 14,700 pounds. Everywhere, people tell me it can pull more. I read magazine articles about how it can tow 18,00 pounds of 5th wheel, if you get the "Trailer Tow Package". Of course, you do not see that particular wording on any new truck sticker. You see options for "Trailer Sway Control", Trailer Brake Control, "10,000 # GVWR Package", "Tow Technology Bundle (incl. Adaptive Steering and Lane Keeping Alert)" Can someone please help me with what I need to buy to tow the trailer I would like to purchase ? Thank you very much in advance.
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I am ready to buy a new 5th wheel. I have never owned a trailer of any kind before. I need help from the experienced people on this site - Please !. I am confused about towing specs, but slowly learning. The 5th wheel I would like to buy is 37', UVW of 12,600 Lbs., GVWR of 16,000 Lbs, Hitch weight of 2,500 pounds. I really don't want to buy a dually, but I want to be safe. I would like to get a single wheel F-250 or F-350. Specifically, the F-250 Crew Cab, 6.7L V8 diesel, 4x4, 160" wheel base, 6-3/4 box, with the 3.55 axle ratio. When I look at the Ford towing specs, it indicates that the vehicle can only tow up to 14,700 pounds. Everywhere, people tell me it can pull more. I read magazine articles about how it can tow 18,00 pounds of 5th wheel, if you get the "Trailer Tow Package". Of course, you do not see that particular wording on any new truck sticker. You see options for "Trailer Sway Control", Trailer Brake Control, "10,000 # GVWR Package", "Tow Technology Bundle (incl. Adaptive Steering and Lane Keeping Alert)" Can someone please help me with what I need to buy to tow the trailer I would like to purchase ? Thank you very much in advance.
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I am ready to buy a new 5th wheel. I have never owned a trailer of any kind before. I need help from the experienced people on this site - Please !. I am confused about towing specs, but slowly learning. The 5th wheel I would like to buy is 37', UVW of 12,600 Lbs., GVWR of 16,000 Lbs, Hitch weight of 2,500 pounds. I really don't want to buy a dually, but I want to be safe. I would like to get a single wheel F-250 or F-350. Specifically, the F-250 Crew Cab, 6.7L V8 diesel, 4x4, 160" wheel base, 6-3/4 box, with the 3.55 axle ratio. When I look at the Ford towing specs, it indicates that the vehicle can only tow up to 14,700 pounds. Everywhere, people tell me it can pull more. I read magazine articles about how it can tow 18,00 pounds of 5th wheel, if you get the "Trailer Tow Package". Of course, you do not see that particular wording on any new truck sticker. You see options for "Trailer Sway Control", Trailer Brake Control, "10,000 # GVWR Package", "Tow Technology Bundle (incl. Adaptive Steering and Lane Keeping Alert)" Can someone please help me with what I need to buy to tow the trailer I would like to purchase ? Thank you very much in advance.
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if you buy a F350 Lariat 6.7L Diesel crew cab your payload sticker will be in the 3400-3500 lb range. A similar F250 will have a payload of only. 2200 lbs.
Your actual oin weight will probobly be 3200--3400 lbs when loaded to travel.
If you buy a F250 you will be in excess of 1000 lbs over weight in payload.
#67
I own a ton of these truck as we use them throughout our company. The reason the cost difference is 900$ is because there is just a leaf spring difference. The lighter springs on the 250 are a little more forgiving around town. When you carry a load the air bags actually will allow more of a payload then the 350 leaf springs. The limiting factor at that point would be rear axle or tires depending on which tires are on the truck. People get so hung up on this 250/350 thing. My golfing buddy is a California Highway Patrol sergeant and he gets a kick out of these discussions.
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I own a ton of these truck as we use them throughout our company. The reason the cost difference is 900$ is because there is just a leaf spring difference. The lighter springs on the 250 are a little more forgiving around town. When you carry a load the air bags actually will allow more of a payload then the 350 leaf springs. The limiting factor at that point would be rear axle or tires depending on which tires are on the truck. People get so hung up on this 250/350 thing. My golfing buddy is a California Highway Patrol sergeant and he gets a kick out of these discussions.
the 350 axle is a 4” tube diameter and the 250 is a 3.5” tube diameter.
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F350 Dana M275 rear w/10.8” ring gears
F250 Sterling w/10.5” ring gear.
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In addition to the extra leaf in the 350 rear springs the F350 comes with a Dana Rear axle rated at 7280 lbs. I believe the F250 comes with the Sterling rear axle rated at 6200 lbs unless you order the camper package.
the 350 axle is a 4” tube diameter and the 250 is a 3.5” tube diameter.
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F350 Dana M275 rear w/10.8” ring gears
F250 Sterling w/10.5” ring gear.
#72
A 37 foot 5'er isn't for beginners. Where are you even going with that? If you never leave the great plains and desert, ok. East coast anywhere, forget about it. A 30 foot 5'er, would be like a 25 foot TT? Right? That's about the max I recommend for new RV'ers. But even a 25' TT can be a major PITA getting into town.
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Everyone's laughing at the weight police. But I just left a campground in GA where two 5'ers we're extending for another night, despite being all packed up and ready to leave. The GA HWY patrol was right down the road pulling over every SRW truck pulling a 5'er.
So it's coming. DOT in Cali is no joke either. An F150 or F250 pulling a big 5'er is easy pickings. Couldn't be any easier to spot either.
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Everyone's laughing at the weight police. But I just left a campground in GA where two 5'ers we're extending for another night, despite being all packed up and ready to leave. The GA HWY patrol was right down the road pulling over every SRW truck pulling a 5'er.
So it's coming. DOT in Cali is no joke either. An F150 or F250 pulling a big 5'er is easy pickings. Couldn't be any easier to spot either.
#73
I'm at 44.5' and camp 90% of the time on the east coast. Been all over from Nova Scotia to FL putting on over 20,000 miles in the last three seasons. Never had an issue finding a campsite... or any issue at all with length. So, I wouldn't exactly say "forget about it..."
#74
As discussed in another thread, the current gen 250's sag as much as the previous gen. I had a 2014 SRW 250 and towed a 5th wheel that was shorter and lighter than the one you have. I installed airbags because even with a pin weight of 1800#s it was just too much sag and felt unstable. I've since upgraded to a '17 DRW and have zero concerns.
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#75
May I ask if your 2014 F250 pulled it without any issues? I have a 2014 F250 4x4 6.7 with the camper package and airbags, I am buying a Keystone Cougar with a dry weight of 8600 lbs.. Just not sure what I will be looking at in regards to pulling the 5th wheel.. I am new to this journey..
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