1997 Econoline 4.6L miss
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1997 Econoline 4.6L miss
Van has 135,000 miles on it. The CEL came on--solid not blinking. Scan showed a miss on #8. New OE platinum plugs have maybe 2,500 miles on them, so I'm thinking plug wire or injector (assuming the CEL returns). Coil packs and wires are original.
Is there any common issue to these engines or that van that might cause this outside the usual stuff?
Is there any common issue to these engines or that van that might cause this outside the usual stuff?
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I wouldn't do that. Ever heard of something called the bathtub curve?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve
The highest likelihood of failure is at the beginning of a part's life, and as it nears the end. You could replace all 8 with Motorcraft coils and spend $$$ and most likely have good results, but others are substantially less reliable. Even with Motorcraft parts, I think you're even more likely to be in there again replacing a coil if you replace all of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve
The highest likelihood of failure is at the beginning of a part's life, and as it nears the end. You could replace all 8 with Motorcraft coils and spend $$$ and most likely have good results, but others are substantially less reliable. Even with Motorcraft parts, I think you're even more likely to be in there again replacing a coil if you replace all of them.
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Interesting theory
This van has the two coil packs not coil on plug, so that cost isn't great. Given the original spark plugs had eroded to .70+ from .52, these coils would have been under significant stress as that plug gap widened.
Some years ago, I represented an ignition manufacturer and was taught with HEI ignitions, the demand on coils was much greater than the older, large, oil filled. Maybe they were trying to bump coil sales, but I often replaced these parts in my drivers. Cost of my samples was nil, but the engines ran stronger and smoother after.
Some years ago, I represented an ignition manufacturer and was taught with HEI ignitions, the demand on coils was much greater than the older, large, oil filled. Maybe they were trying to bump coil sales, but I often replaced these parts in my drivers. Cost of my samples was nil, but the engines ran stronger and smoother after.
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I feel like the TV guy, with a "Breaking News" flash . . .
Spoke to my mechanic later Tuesday--new coil didn't help. He says the spark on that cylinder, #8, is weak--yellow instead of blue/white and plans to replace the plug wire today to test. He also says it idles fine and runs well at low speed but put it under load and it misses on #8.
I had an Isuzu Rodeo V-6 a year ago that did almost exactly the same thing. Flashing CEL at 35+MPH. Replaced all the plugs and coil on #2, no help. Replaced the injector on #2 and it ran fine. Maybe was an intake gasket leak pulling some outside air near #2, but I replaced those in the process of replacing the injector. That fixed it.
Spoke to my mechanic later Tuesday--new coil didn't help. He says the spark on that cylinder, #8, is weak--yellow instead of blue/white and plans to replace the plug wire today to test. He also says it idles fine and runs well at low speed but put it under load and it misses on #8.
I had an Isuzu Rodeo V-6 a year ago that did almost exactly the same thing. Flashing CEL at 35+MPH. Replaced all the plugs and coil on #2, no help. Replaced the injector on #2 and it ran fine. Maybe was an intake gasket leak pulling some outside air near #2, but I replaced those in the process of replacing the injector. That fixed it.
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