1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks
View Poll Results: Which restoration path would you prefer?
Leave it old an crusty("patina")?
25
56.82%
Stock/Factory restoration
19
43.18%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

Patina vs Driver quality stock resto

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #16  
Old 04-11-2017, 10:27 AM
raytasch's Avatar
raytasch
raytasch is offline
Believe Nothing

Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: W. Central FL.
Posts: 7,329
Received 244 Likes on 153 Posts
If that truck had some stock appearing wheels and tires installed, it would be a good representative of a working truck of the era. Certainly, something I would drive. Adjust the front bumper for a better fit and it would help the overall looks. Drive it until the truck tells you what it wants. Just one old man's opinion, it is your truck. Good looking one, BTW.
 
  #17  
Old 04-11-2017, 12:13 PM
1956_F100's Avatar
1956_F100
1956_F100 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 645
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Nice original custom cab truck. Does it have a 292 and with an auto or manual trans? I'd do a stock restoration. Thorough, but driver quality so you can still use it without too many worries. I'm not a fan of the Patina look or clear coat over rust to "preserve it" look. Rust will only keep getting worse and eventually be very difficult and expensive to repair.

What I'd like to know is why does it look like the hood still fits good? That alignment is usually first to go bad.
 
  #18  
Old 04-11-2017, 12:22 PM
petemcl's Avatar
petemcl
petemcl is offline
Still Learnin'
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Northville, MI
Posts: 4,634
Received 38 Likes on 28 Posts
Unfortunately to many the "patina look" means that they don't care if the deterioration continues. But since you plan to keep your truck I would, as others have noted, I would suggest that you get it running, driving and stopping first. Then look at the worst areas of rust/deterioration and fix them before they get worse. This would definitely include wiring, fuel and cooling systems.
 
  #19  
Old 04-11-2017, 12:38 PM
white 66's Avatar
white 66
white 66 is offline
Laughing Gas
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 909
Received 18 Likes on 14 Posts
Leave as is.

Originally Posted by mOROTBREATH
My truck has essentially no monetary value, only sentimental--I have no plans of selling it at any time for any reason.

I was considering restoring it to a stock, but driver quality truck. However I have had almost as many people suggest leave it alone--rust, chalky Earl Scheib paint with dents and dings--as I've had people encouraging me to fix it up.

Resto mod is not a choice as you can see, and I'd never take that route with a truck. If it ain't a stock restoration, it's not getting done at all.

"It's your truck do what you want". Yes I know that.

What do you think?
Nice ride, leave as is but protect it.
 

Last edited by white 66; 04-11-2017 at 12:39 PM. Reason: forgot text
  #20  
Old 04-11-2017, 03:49 PM
ALBUQ F-1's Avatar
ALBUQ F-1
ALBUQ F-1 is offline
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NM
Posts: 26,800
Received 607 Likes on 377 Posts
I voted for neither. If there was something in between, I'd have voted for that. You don't need a Dearborn-level stock resto, and I think you will likely become unhappy with the current look. I wanted to leave mine about like yours (a little worse... OK, a lot worse) and it grated on me. I budgeted $2500 for paint and body (no rust repairs needed) and did all the mechanical stuff myself. There's no comparison to the high-dollar paint jobs many folks have, but being able to wash and wax it without a tetanus booster is really nice.

One thing to consider... right now there are a lot of body and trim parts available, more so than even 20 years ago. But there's also a lot of stuff no longer available, and personally I suspect demand is going to drop as more and more trucks get restored. I'd at least buy some of the stuff you're likely to need due to wear or desire to upgrade.
 
  #21  
Old 04-11-2017, 05:06 PM
oneye's Avatar
oneye
oneye is offline
Mountain Pass
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I'm an in-betweene-er too. My ideal would be to lose the candy-stripe and go to Meadow Green, maybe with black fenders? ... but I just can't bring myself to erase Mr. Parker's so carefully detailed finish, at least, not yet. So I end up scraping and sanding wherever the original flakes off, then spraying acid-8 primer and re-painting in hopefully discreet patch areas. My local paint guy is so good at color matching, you really can't see the re-paints except for the overlap difference, close-up. But anything closer than ten feet would have a true show-guy grimacing. On the other hand, there's a certain amount of freedom in not having to be so preciously careful about a diamond-perfect finish. Will have to confront a decision sooner or later, but I do end up driving ever so happily somewhere in the middle. For now. 'Hey, it's a work in progress.'
 
  #22  
Old 04-11-2017, 05:34 PM
willowbilly3's Avatar
willowbilly3
willowbilly3 is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Black Hills of SD
Posts: 8,209
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
I'm a minimalist. Do what it takes to make it reliable and safe. I like old trucks because they drive like old trucks. For me that's a good part of the charm. Some people want a modern ride that just looks old.
But you are out there with the crazys in their modern cars so a good disc brake upgrade ain't a bad thing. If you are running the freeway, you almost need some tall gears or overdrive to keep from getting ran over and being a danger.
 
  #23  
Old 04-11-2017, 05:41 PM
underthebridgejim's Avatar
underthebridgejim
underthebridgejim is offline
FTE fan
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: paradise, northern calif.
Posts: 3,674
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
I couldn't pick either, for several reasons. First and formost is its a family truck and keeping it the same is something I feel is something you should discuss with your father and see how he feels about changes. Second I also would be somewhere in-between. Since there are not any family signage to preserve, I would tinker with getting it ready for paint and try your hand at spraying it yourself. I should have started with this but obviously getting any truck to a point where it is safe and reliable is paramount no matter what your choice. Best of luck on it and congratulations on being blessed with your fathers truck being passed on to you.
 
  #24  
Old 04-11-2017, 06:43 PM
Stephen67's Avatar
Stephen67
Stephen67 is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,658
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Restoring it means a little bit of reluctance to use it hard as you might damage all the work you put into it. Plus it will take 60 years to get the look it has on now back. Restoring it also means you can use it better on todays roads.

But, with that being said I'm still painting mine. I love a good patina, but opinions very on what is good and what is just trashed.


Something that's helped me:

Picture an old truck lot with every single possible version of your truck you could have. Restored ones, chopped ones, diesel, Big block, tiny scooter engines, red, white, blue hot pink, everything. And you get to pick just one for free.

Which one would you pick?


Build that one.
 
  #25  
Old 04-11-2017, 07:18 PM
mOROTBREATH's Avatar
mOROTBREATH
mOROTBREATH is offline
Cargo Master
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Posts: 2,087
Received 167 Likes on 113 Posts
Originally Posted by abe
Motorbreath,

Can you show us more pictures of your truck, different angles, interior, etc so we can help you make a better choice about new paint or keep the patina as is.
I'll get that done this evening. The areas that bolt the fenders and running boards together are ALL rusted out. Not a single piece actually connects to the other. The front passenger hood has rusted out. The truck was in a rough accident that affected the front passenger side, and the passenger fender was replaced(with one it terrible condition). The front bumper is bent but I am afraid at replacing it--it'd look too good for this old truck.

Originally Posted by raytasch
If that truck had some stock appearing wheels and tires installed, it would be a good representative of a working truck of the era. Certainly, something I would drive. Adjust the front bumper for a better fit and it would help the overall looks. Drive it until the truck tells you what it wants. Just one old man's opinion, it is your truck. Good looking one, BTW.
\
Thank you, the bumper is bent up, I thought of tying it to a big tree and just giving it a couple gentle pulls in reverse...never did it though.

Originally Posted by 1956_F100
Nice original custom cab truck. Does it have a 292 and with an auto or manual trans? I'd do a stock restoration. Thorough, but driver quality so you can still use it without too many worries. I'm not a fan of the Patina look or clear coat over rust to "preserve it" look. Rust will only keep getting worse and eventually be very difficult and expensive to repair.

What I'd like to know is why does it look like the hood still fits good? That alignment is usually first to go bad.
223 with 3-on-the-tree. The hood was messed up in some accident a very long time ago and they covered up a bunch of rust with filler, and the hood line above the grill is "off". But otherwise is does seem to fit ok.

Originally Posted by underthebridgejim
I couldn't pick either, for several reasons. First and formost is its a family truck and keeping it the same is something I feel is something you should discuss with your father and see how he feels about changes.
My father isn't much of a car guy in a typical sense--he's all for me restoring for the simple fact that I'm the one doing the work.
Originally Posted by Stephen67
Restoring it means a little bit of reluctance to use it hard as you might damage all the work you put into it.


Picture an old truck lot with every single possible version of your truck you could have. Restored ones, chopped ones, diesel, Big block, tiny scooter engines, red, white, blue hot pink, everything. And you get to pick just one for free.

Which one would you pick?
Yes that future reluctance has me worried.


That is one of the best analogies I've ever heard/read. Thank you for that.






Bonus points: My original clutch spring broke on the way home from work 45 minutes ago. Held the pedal up with my hand all the way home. I love old trucks.
 
  #26  
Old 04-11-2017, 07:26 PM
abe's Avatar
abe
abe is online now
One Meadow Green Owner

Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Central PA
Posts: 22,180
Received 2,615 Likes on 1,456 Posts
After hearing about the rust thru at the running boards and fenders and the hood, I change my vote. It needs fixed and restored.
 
  #27  
Old 04-11-2017, 07:45 PM
mOROTBREATH's Avatar
mOROTBREATH
mOROTBREATH is offline
Cargo Master
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Posts: 2,087
Received 167 Likes on 113 Posts
Originally Posted by abe
After hearing about the rust thru at the running boards and fenders and the hood, I change my vote. It needs fixed and restored.
The boards are not rusted but they are dented pretty badly, only the metal on the fenders is missing. It should be a very easy cut and weld replacement of metal.


As soon as the sun sets a bit I'll have some pictures for fun.
 
  #28  
Old 04-11-2017, 07:48 PM
Brucekoukalaka's Avatar
Brucekoukalaka
Brucekoukalaka is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 123
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I prefer to see these relics restored to original, (I voted restore) although improving the brakes and better gearing is something I agree with to maintain today's highway speeds as I'll be doing on my '52 F3. while maintaining the original drivetrain.
 
  #29  
Old 04-11-2017, 07:58 PM
bhalemail's Avatar
bhalemail
bhalemail is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Central PA
Posts: 688
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
I have both and my "leave it alone truck" is the one i get to use. I still don't have the 50 done cause it takes lots of money. It took my 1952 65 years to get the way it is, i'd hate to lose that. Its like the truck is trying to tell stories with each ding, dent and scratch. Personally i love that white truck in this post with the bit of surface wear. I could buff that out and make it shine without losing the look. I wouldn't touch it.
 
  #30  
Old 04-11-2017, 10:07 PM
mOROTBREATH's Avatar
mOROTBREATH
mOROTBREATH is offline
Cargo Master
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Posts: 2,087
Received 167 Likes on 113 Posts
Here is a string of photos, as many as I can post at a time. '

Photo 1: I got a screw in my fancy new tire a week ago and had to use my spare to get home from the work parking lot. I bought a bias ply trailer tire for the spare since it was the only thing that'd fit between the frame rails--I thought it looked neat and snapped a pic.


2: You can see the arch of the hood lip is off and covered in filler on the passenger side, and the ripple mark on the bumper, remnants of a wreck.

3: passenger side bent bumper

4: Drivers side factory bumper

5: passenger rear fender rusted out mounting area where it mates with the running board.

6: I sanded the repaint white paint off the FORD letters and uncovered what is most likely the original black paint. Thought it was very cool.

7: imperfections in rear passenger fender.
 
Attached Images        


Quick Reply: Patina vs Driver quality stock resto



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:34 PM.