The more I read the archived threads on re-learning and re-setting the TPMS after a tire/rim swap the more confused I get.
I have 2013 F350 SRW Diesel
Winter tires and rims 18 inch with all 4 having OEM TPMS installed
Summer tires 20 inch with 2 aftermarket and 2 OEM TPMS installed
The tire shop can make either 18 or 20's re-learn with their tool - no problem
When I try to re-learn the 20's with the procedure outlined in the Ford Manual - no luck must be the aftermarket TPMS not recognized
So , it seems that people recommend using the Motorcraft TPMS-19 tool
When I order it on Amazon the site says it is not compactable with my vehicle
Just need to know what to purchase , maybe Amazon is incorrect
Tire shop 50 miles away , I do the physical tire/rim switch
Thanks,
Bill C

 

On my 2011 F350, I never installed the tpms valves in my winter tires or my subsequent replacement tires. Much cheaper and less hassle.

On two Ford cars I have (for wife and son), i purchased separate third party winter tires and rims with tpms valves. Just threw them on the car; no issues. Didn't have to do any reprogramming

 

Never thought of that. Is there a warning message or dash lite when the tires don't have any TPMS installed?
BC

 

I'm a tire technician and it seems like the shop didn't program the sensors to match each other. This is an acceptable process, as you just have to relearn the vehicle, but I never do it this way. I take the time to go into the TPMS module with a scanner and read the sensor codes the module is expecting, or I read each sensor individually and write down the IDs.

If you have the exact same sensor IDs, then there is no relearn procedure needed. I would suggest doing this. It may cost more, as you have to dismount the tires and plug the sensor into a scan tool. We use aftermarket sensors that are specific to our scan tool. Your OEM sensors are probably programmed already.

As for the relearn, you do this:
Ignition on
Ignition off
Hit brake
Ignition on off three times quickly, ending in on
​Hit brake
Ignition off
Ignition on off three times quickly, engine in on

Start from left front, work clockwise.

 

I think I am getting closer to an answer to my question of what tool.
When the tire shop re-set the tpms they used the key on/off + brake method. Their tool was probably meant to be used on all sorts of vehicles that they service and costs way more than I need to spend.
So , rather than dismounting and removing tpm from the wheels and putting them in a relearn mode ----
Is there an aftermarket tool such as Motorcraft TPMS-19 that will work with aftermarket and OEM tpms
Thanks
BC

 

Dismounting the tires will be to reprogram TPMS, and actually change the sensor IDs. Relearn means you change what the TPMS control module is expecting to see as the sensor IDs.

 

maybe once a month the warning message will go off in the dash, but i just press "ok" and it's gone

 

Hello Gents, I'm new to this forum but I have some solid advice about relearning the TPMS codes. First off I have a 2016 F-350 and I too swap over tires and rims every Spring/Summer.
So here is the advice...DO NOT USE THE HAZARD LIGHT INSTRUCTIONS IN THE MANUAL. These instructions are for vehicles with a FOB for ignition. Yes it will go into the learn mode but it WILL NOT LEARN!!!. You MUST use the key/brake method to get your 2016 truck into the learn mode. Key on and off 3 times (stopping in the ON position on the 3rd time) hit the brake pedal once. Key off and on 3 times once again stopping in the on position the third time. Your truck should honk 1 time at you and as the dash comes to life it will be in the learn mode and TRULY ready to learn. I use the cheap $30 dollar TPMS19 tool from motorcraft and walk around the truck resetting/re-learning each tire with the truck giving a positive honk. I'm working on a YouTube video right now and hope to have it posted within 24 hours. Hope this helps everyone out with this mysterious TPMS relearn mode.Here is my YouTube video. Cheers,
Jeff

 

Jeff I recently got a 2016 350 and just came across your post and video. After a winter rim change the deflation silliness dod not work. nor did a Motorcraft 19 using the owner manual set up for training.

I want to confirm that at least with the 2016 w/out fob, you must do the key and brake pedal dance. Ticks me off that the Ford manual would misdirect owners and that the software would lead you down the garden path telling you are ready to train when you are not. But I guess we shouldn't expect so much from a vehicle that was stickered at only 78k.

 

interesting issue. I just rotated the factory wheels and tires on my 2016 and the hazard light method worked just fine. Is the method in the video above only the case if not using OEM sensors?

 

Good question! In my case my new rims, tires, and sensors were all tire rack. Tire rack knew what my vehicle was but no idea here if the sensors were OEM or compatibles or neither. Maybe the hazard light entry into training mode works with OEM sensors. That would explain the directions in the manual. But that still leaves the question of why does ford not provide programming to train even its own sensors without the deflation and re-inflation. Let alone inform their owners of these variables. I wouldn't even know about the Motorcraft 19 trigger gizmo if not for the forums. My previous vehicles since 2007 all allowed booting new sensors from the driver's seat. (Not all were wheel-specific though.)

None of this is the biggest deal in the world, it is just frustrating to go around in circles on this stuff. My upcoming (first) dealer service I will ask another question that leaves me dizzy after reading the forums: can/will they reprogram the PSI to lower the threshold below 80PSI rear and 65PSI front? 80PSI with an empty rig on ice and packed snow is ridiculous.