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What to do with the engine and tranny from this 51 F6
I have a feeling this may be a sore topic but this great old truck is destined for a use thst does not include the engine and transmission. It seems like a waste to leave them instsleed when another truck might benefit from their use. I know a local hot rodder who will take them for $50 ot $100 as a core not knowing about cracks and the like. The engine turns by way of the fan by hand. My guess is that it was functional and parked, but who knows?
It is flathead V8 and a manual with a a pto. It was known as the winch truck on the key tag. It has a local history to the Chico CA area and will be moving to Petaluma to serve as a focal point to a long-time, well respected business as a platform and just to enjoy its beauty.
So if folks here have an interest or better use for these items, let me know. I could think of worse places for them to end up than at the hot rodders shop. He does very nice work.
Sorry to hear that you are not planning to keep this a running truck. Being able to turn the fan by hand actually doesn't tell you anything as in most cases the belt will slip and all you are turning is the fan and not the engine. To check the engine put a socket on the crank pulley bolt and with a breaker bar and try turning, or you could pull the starter and try turning the flywheel.. Other options but not ordinarily recommended would be putting power to the starter or getting the truck on a hard surface and pull it while in gear to see if it will turn.
It's a pig in a poke, was antifreeze in it the whole time? The hot rodder friend is low-balling a little, but not a lot. Very little demand for the HD 4-sp, which it sounds like it has. Maybe some demand for the PTO if it is in working order.
You never know, if the block is not cracked it is worth more. But it costs about $200 to find out, not counting a lot of disassembly labor. There just isn't a lot of demand for any of the parts other than the block.
Personally I'd be inclined to ask for $150 if he takes it all. Or leave it in there.
It's a pig in a poke, was antifreeze in it the whole time? The hot rodder friend is low-balling a little, but not a lot. Very little demand for the HD 4-sp, which it sounds like it has. Maybe some demand for the PTO if it is in working order.
You never know, if the block is not cracked it is worth more. But it costs about $200 to find out, not counting a lot of disassembly labor. There just isn't a lot of demand for any of the parts other than the block.
Personally I'd be inclined to ask for $150 if he takes it all. Or leave it in there.
Not sure about the antifreeze. My nieghbor harvested the radiator before I bought it. Pig in a poke.
I figure if the hot rodder is willing to pull the whole thing, it will be worth more than a poke in the eye... He has two daily drivers with flatheads one of which is a nice '50 F1. He is renowned in the hotrod world, from what I hear. A nice fellow too.
Sorry to hear that you are not planning to keep this a running truck. Being able to turn the fan by hand actually doesn't tell you anything as in most cases the belt will slip and all you are turning is the fan and not the engine. To check the engine put a socket on the crank pulley bolt and with a breaker bar and try turning, or you could pull the starter and try turning the flywheel.. Other options but not ordinarily recommended would be putting power to the starter or getting the truck on a hard surface and pull it while in gear to see if it will turn.
I am acting more as a truck pimp on this one. My friend saw the bread truck I did and asked me to keep an eye out for something like this. I feel fortunate that I will be able to enjoy visitation rights. I enjoy the rig just the way it is. I cannot imagine the cost to make it into a driver in any event, widow makers and all...
No offense to anyone. However I put an ad locally to buy a flathead V8, complete or just the block. I got several emails and calls. Everyone wanted $1000 for an engine that should run, should turn over, should be ok to rebuild, or ran when parked 30+ years ago! The problem as most know, flatheads develop cracks!! Some are a problem others not so much. I am not paying for an engine that may be useless due to cracks. If one person had emailed/called and said I have an engine or block that has been checked has no cracks, maybe $500 but still, who magged it? Experience counts when looking for flathead cracks. I'd pay $100-150 for pig in a poke flathead with no guarantee maybe....
If you get a rebuildable block you still have a long way to go $wise.
Check the top of the transmission to see if it is a T98. Should be marked as such if it is. There is a demand for them, as opposed to the T9 spur gear.
Check the top of the transmission to see if it is a T98. Should be marked as such if it is. There is a demand for them, as opposed to the T9 spur gear.
Thanks, my bread trucks have t-97/98 trannies if I am remembering well. The recipient says he rebuilds both the engines, to the tune of $6k, and transmissions so he can use them both.
No offense to anyone. However I put an ad locally to buy a flathead V8, complete or just the block. I got several emails and calls. Everyone wanted $1000 for an engine that should run, should turn over, should be ok to rebuild, or ran when parked 30+ years ago! The problem as most know, flatheads develop cracks!! Some are a problem others not so much. I am not paying for an engine that may be useless due to cracks. If one person had emailed/called and said I have an engine or block that has been checked has no cracks, maybe $500 but still, who magged it? Experience counts when looking for flathead cracks. I'd pay $100-150 for pig in a poke flathead with no guarantee maybe....
If you get a rebuildable block you still have a long way to go $wise.
I figure if he helps me get the pig out of the poke, he can have them... Oink.
Check the top of the transmission to see if it is a T98. Should be marked as such if it is. There is a demand for them, as opposed to the T9 spur gear.
As for value of the transmission, as stated above they aren't worth much but the "hogs head" is. The hogs head is the part in front of the transmission that contains the clutch fork. Flathead hotrodders use them to mount a modern transmission to the back of the flatheads. I've sold quite a few on eBay for anywhere between $75-100.
04-06-2017, 08:56 AM
