Adding Adaptive Cruise later?
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You've got to be kidding me. The whole point of adaptive cruise is to let the driver do less. Nobody is going to turn on a system that requires them to be "more" alert and call it luxury. It will definitely lull the driver into inattention after miles of using it and having it work well.
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Thanks I'll checking and I hope everything works great and easy to do
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You've got to be kidding me. The whole point of adaptive cruise is to let the driver do less. Nobody is going to turn on a system that requires them to be "more" alert and call it luxury. It will definitely lull the driver into inattention after miles of using it and having it work well.
These systems mess up. They incorrectly see things. And when they don't work correctly and you plow into someone, you're on the hook.
So, use them, enjoy them. Just recognize their limitations and stay every bit as alert as if you didn't have them.
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Parts List
I saw the parts list for the F150 thread. Does anyone know the part numbers for the F250? I would expect the sensor and steering wheel controls are the same. The wiring harness and mounting bracket may be different. Just looking for part info.
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Not all parts were the same I know for a fact there were 4 different parts and some we couldnt find the correct part number. Due to fords computer system not having some of the superduty parts listed easily found. The parts guy was left in charge finding the correct part numbers. But once it's installed and functional we will post the parts list.
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If you are not paying attention or alert you will find yourself behind the slowest vehicle plodding along while everyone passes on the left.
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Thanks das_16 for the updates...
As for the complacency argument, here is how it goes from my Father-in-law who commutes about 200 miles (~100 each way) a couple times a week. He liked the feature at first, but then got stopped "paying attention" to it and realized he was getting later and later to work than usual. He found that even if he set the cruise for 70 (the speed limit) he would just let the system do it's own thing and occasionally looked down and saw he was doing 62 behind somebody and just tooling along because he never gained on them assumed they were doing 70. He said he ended up going 10-20 miles at slower pace than "normal" just because he wasn't "maintaining the set speed", as it adapted to the slower car in front of him. On normal cruise control he would have seen himself gaining on the other car, and moved over to go around.
As for the complacency argument, here is how it goes from my Father-in-law who commutes about 200 miles (~100 each way) a couple times a week. He liked the feature at first, but then got stopped "paying attention" to it and realized he was getting later and later to work than usual. He found that even if he set the cruise for 70 (the speed limit) he would just let the system do it's own thing and occasionally looked down and saw he was doing 62 behind somebody and just tooling along because he never gained on them assumed they were doing 70. He said he ended up going 10-20 miles at slower pace than "normal" just because he wasn't "maintaining the set speed", as it adapted to the slower car in front of him. On normal cruise control he would have seen himself gaining on the other car, and moved over to go around.
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Oddly enough You and I were saying the same thing based on what I am quoting here, but then you seem to add a negative spin about blindly following into a ditch, what's that about? All I was saying was the same thing you did, he was not paying attention to the speed (road yes, but not speed) and didn't realize how slow he was going.
There can be a negative side but I was using it as metaphor on how you think you are driving in control then your realize adaptive steering is a sort of leash to the vehicle in front. There is a complacent, dangerous and yes negative side to these new technologies.
If you were really paying attention you have been to work on time right? Adaptive steering, like it or not, did take away attention to the road.
These new vehicle control systems make it real easy for to drop your attention. Cross traffic alert, blind spot monitoring, automatic braking...you need to be aware of it's impact on your driving habits.
I would venture to say, if you are on an automotive forum your are an enthusiast and more aware and equally protective of comments to your driving ability. Now think about the texting teenage in the car next to use who is use to technology running their lives.....
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So far do you know the basics to start? Like whats the minimum truck trim, I'm guessing that a list has to have front cameras
Mine it's a Lariat Ultimate with 360 cameras, all the features except for adaptive cruise control
Mine it's a Lariat Ultimate with 360 cameras, all the features except for adaptive cruise control