im new to this forum. i just bought a 94 f600 with a dump body on the back. its 2 wheel drive sadly but has a strong 7.0L gas engine. whats the towing capacity for this truck gross weight is appx 21k lbs

 

I moved this to the large truck category. I think some of the others that have this will be able to chime in.

 

Welcome to FTE.

If your GVWR is 21000, you will be limited to a trailer under 9000* or you will need a CDL, subject to some exemptions as indicated here for NY:

https://dmv.ny.gov/commercial-driver...-truck-manuals

Exemptions include farmers within 150 miles with farm products, or personal property not for hire. As I said, the specifics are in the downloads.

Towing for trucks like this is generally limited by your hitch, power, and the type of trailer and brakes. You might be able to pull 20000 or more with that truck, but IMO it would be a real challenge on the road power wise.

*10000 see post 5

 

with a 7.0 gas motor I'd stick to no more than 15-20K and even then you are not going anywhere fast, but you will get there.

 

The trailer is limited to 10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight rating. Not the 9,000 pounds.

 

Right, I misread that. So he can go to 9999 without a CDL it appears.

 

10,000. 10,001 he needs a class A CDL.

 

My reading and comprehension seems to have taken a holiday. Right again...

 

It's my job to know this sort of thing.

 

"... personal property not for hire."

 

and to confirm, the 10k+1 trailer weight pushing into the CDL realm is unaffected if it is a personal NFH setup?
JML

 

In Washington State, that is the case (despite the confusing way the law is written). Not-for-hire trucks have the same benefits of Not-for-hire Class A motorhomes.

 

OP is in New York. There is a link to the NY CDL info site above.

"Personal property". What personal property do you haul in a dump truck? I suppose you could claim the dirt you are hauling is really yours. And what would you tow? I know some folks haul a backhoe around for the kids to play on.

If OP is doing work on a farm, he is probably ok. If he is truly vacationing with a load of sand and bobcat, then he is probably ok. If he is doing other work, he may not be ok if he tows over 10k.

I get RV and farm exemptions, but my old man used to pay commercial on his truck while some other guy was hauling and selling the same thing on farm plates. He used to get pretty steamed about it, but being a small community he just yelled a mom and us instead of going over and burning the guy out like any normal person would have.

But I digress.

 

can you confirm where you found a 'not for hire' CDL exemption for Washington? When I spoke with WA. Commercial Vehicle Enforcement I was clearly told that my 27,000 GVW Ford LN700 would require a class b CDL unless titled and licensed as an agricultural vehicle and then it would be limited to 25 miles from my ranch (even though the Federal rule says 150)

 

RCW 46.25.010


(6) "Commercial motor vehicle" means a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles used in commerce to transport passengers or property if the motor vehicle:
(a) Has a gross combination weight rating or gross combination weight of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more), whichever is greater, inclusive of a [any] towed unit [or units] with a gross vehicle weight rating or gross vehicle weight of more than 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds or more), whichever is greater; or
(b) Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross vehicle weight of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more), whichever is greater; or
(c) Is designed to transport sixteen or more passengers, including the driver; or
(d) Is of any size and is used in the transportation of hazardous materials as defined in this section; or
(e) Is a school bus regardless of weight or size.